NFL: Giants Expected to Hire Pat Shurmur
The Fassel teams both overachieved and underachieved and got the living crap screwed out of them in 2002 when they were hot enough to go all the way, but had the refs blow a call in SF. He did make it to a Superbowl and did coach the team to a win over an undefeated Denver team in Denver, so not a terrible coach, and who knows how good he might have been had he had better talent at the position he was known to whisper to.
Any Shurmur staff will need a great DC and a great new OL coach. In Minny, his OL was rebuilt in one offseason and Gettelman will aim to that for him here, too. Don't be surprised if Spags gets another chance, since Shurmur worked for him with the Rams, and with him for the Eagles for many years.
This is just sort of breaking and we'll probably have to wait for confirmation.
posted by Kalel9 @ 12:07 PM
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If he picks Spags after what went down here it will indicate to me that he is more into cronies than competence.
But it’s really on the owner who makes me sick.
I am done with the Giants for a while.
I got the feeling, all along, that you wanted McDaniels for the job. Shurmur has succeeded in more settings. Anyway, I wanted Patricia, but I am open to giving Shurmur a chance, and as I have researched him, have found even more differences between PS and Fassel and McAdoo. So I think this could be a really interesting time.
McAdoo wasn't from the Walsh tree, he was from a sort of weird imposter tree. Fassel wasn't from the Walsh tree, either, though he is constantly attribured to it. He was at Stanford AFTER Walsh. Anyway, Shurmur is from the Walsh tree, and that brand is far more successful than the Belichick treehas been so far, though O'Brien is impressive and if you put Saban on the Belichick tree, it improves.
As for Spags, I have a sentimental affection for him. He proved in 2016 that he still had it if he had a reasonably healthy D, but I wouldn't be bummed if they moved on from him. I don't think they'll use all 6 of their high picks on O (though perhaps they should) and the D should get a bit of an overhaul, too between Draft and FA. So it shouldn't be totally unnattractive to a new DC.
I think they needed what Mara himself called wholesale changes. But that was when he was scared shitless when mass outrage engulfed the franchise after he at least agreed that Eli’s streak should end...for Geno Smith.
Then he came down off the ledge and made comfortable FO changes.
Obviously, it can work, but I just need a break from this fiefdom for a while.
They're making wholesale changes, starting with the end of McAdoo, Reese, and their head of amateur scouting. Gettleman is a breath of fresh air, and it looks like Shurmur is on the way, and he's done something pretty amazing with the Vikings and a 3rd string QB. His new staff will have to feature some homeruns, and I hope it's replete with a mix of youth and experience. His staffs with the Browns had "experienced guys" because no one wanted to coach for the Browns.
Shurmur crushed his interview and I think we'll find that Patricia used the Giants to extract what he wanted from Detroit. I don't think McDaniels was their second choice. I think they went into it wanting Patricia, then having Shurmur outshine everyone in the interviews, and McDaniel having come in third, because he's not a very good interview.
Much like with our Yanks, I think it's improtant to have communicators on the staff and in the FO, and I think we're gonna really upgrade that.
Now what we can't have happen is have the owners say "no" to an expensive assistant or 2. They did that to TC in 2004. But that was the previous generation of owners.
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