Yanks Win By Walk Off Sac Fly
Miller got the win, and Gardy started the winning rally by working a walk. Then they walked ARod. Then they walked McCann (who had been thrown out at the plate in the 7th) and then Beltran hit a fly ball and Gardy scored.
Much needed win. But a team with Capuano and dead bats in the lineup better not make big October plans.
posted by Kalel9 @ 7:06 PM
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Good win, good post.
I also didn't like that Teix, Who hasn't batted in at least a week, was going to PH for Bird.
Sanchez homered tonight. I'm happy for him, but you just know with this team's defensive obsession, he will soon be shipped off as part of a trade package. I just hope it's for a bat.
As I said Cashman gets a reset from me if he gets rid of this fool in the dugout.
So basically, CC acknowledges that he ineffective unless he goes all out, but if he goes all out his knee won't hold up. That may not meet an insurance criteria for a payout, but baseball wise it's a nonstarter, no pun intended
Yep, CC was just going out there to collect his checks, then his pride/humiliation set in and he tried to become useful on the mound again. He has to take responsibility for his knee, lose weight. His body can't take that kind of pounding anymore, he's getting like $25M to keep in shape.
Girardi has often said the worst part of his job is telling a veteran player they’re being cut at the end of spring training or released during the season. None of those players — think Brian Roberts or Alfonso Soriano, for instance — have had the type of history here that Sabathia has.
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How much has this mindset cost the team? The worst part of the job should be enduring a learning curve of young players
Nate was great last night. Didi has been fantastic since May. Cashman made 2 solid trades this off-season, even though he was widely criticized for them at the time.
As I said on the prior thread, the Eovaldi trade may turn out to be Cashman's best trade ever, by far, because he not only got a young player with significant upside for marginal/fungible parts, he got the cheaper player, which almost never happens with Cashman.
In fact, it's possible that it can go down as one of the great recent trades in baseball.
And I loved the trade at the time it was made.
I was opposed to the other one because: 1) it put Capuano in the rotation (he doesn't belong anywhere near a ML roster); and 2) given that the rebirth of A-Rod and Tex as dominant hitters (at least they have been for most of the season) was unforeseeable, there were very few spots to add an offensive upgrade.
Speaking of which, that's the task. The pitching is fine; the offense isn't, and if they falter further, that will likely be the reason.
So find a way to integrate all of Bird, Judge, Refsndyer, and especially Sanchez. Offense is so scarce in MLB that he is extremely valuable. And worst of all, don't waste two young players by trading Sanchez for a 2B.
And most importantly, don't let this anal maanager derail that plan.
If you look at it in big picture, we really got Eovaldi and a top 10 prospect for Pete O'Brien and David Phelps.
I was the conductor of the Eovaldi train at the start of the season and am glad he's flourishing before our eyes.
Separately, I think a lot of people need to read this article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/08/24/field-front-office-many-believe-chemistry-still-matters-baseball/32271291/
Clubhouse chemistry is a variable that cannot be quantified. We sit here and debate why CC and Drew are still in everyday but we have no idea the impact they have on our teams clubhouse. There numbers may be shit but team camaraderie is critical and it's why certain teams excel even without the most talent.
They have a strong veteran core. There is no reason why they can't sub-in a better player for Ryan or Drew.
Maybe the issue is the manager is too insecure, or just kind of a dick.
As for CC, he has been one of the worst starters in MLB for the last few years; he is here because of his contract.
I think winning breeds chemistry, not the other way around. As the aphorism goes, baseball, unlike football and basketball, is a team game played by individuals. You don't have to get players to grasp a scheme or sublimate their talents for the greater good.
For example, the Giants originally signed Plax because they knew that their veterans would keep him in line if he acted out, and they did until he violated the strongest hand gun law in the country.
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Refs is "cocky" as Francesser has so smeared.
How long would he remain cocky with A-Rod, Teix, McCann, etc. laying out the rules.
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Chris Young LF
Alex Rodriguez DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Carlos Beltran RF
Chase Headley 3B
John Ryan Murphy C
Didi Gregorius SS
Brendan Ryan 2B
RHP Ivan Nova
I think you have it backwards -- as someone who's played professionally, the most successful teams I've been on have been those where each teammate pulled and cared for one another and only cared about winning and not individual statistics.
While the sport is played by individuals, the chemistry of the bonds formed helps build a culture that is contagious to all around. This breeds winning and when players are plugged in and buy into the culture, it allows teams to thrive even without the most talent.
CC is probably in the rotation due to his salary but his impact in the clubhouse can't be quantified. When we signed him in 09, it was 50% for his talent and 50% for what he brought to the clubhouse. We were fragmented at the time with AROD and Jeter and his influence and personality helped bring everyone together.
I do agree that the coach is critical to creating the atmosphere that builds chemsitry. Just look at the Rays & Cubs with Maddon, the Giants with Bochy, those teams all played for one another and not for themselves.
As usual we disagree, and I have played at very high levels at b-ball. Although granted, I am no longer young and those days are sadly gone forever.
You make it so all or nothing. Like almost everything else in life, the truth is much more gray.
If, for example, you could add Chase Utley in his prime to the Yankees (at no cost of prospects), but he turned out to be kind of a jerk, this team would be MUCH better than they are now.
The 2009 team scored 915 runs!!!
The A-Rod/Jeter thing is so sui generis, but let's also remember that CC (ERA+ = 137) was a true #1 then, they also added Teix, who had his only .900 OPS season until this one (amazingly), and AJ (ERA+ = 114) was pretty good as well, and A-Rod and Jeter both pruduced
at near career peak levels.
Chemistry is nice, but it is insufficient without talent.
So I would risk removing Drew or Ryan from the team to get 2B with true offensive upside.
If Refsnyder ever does come up, he should wear a t-shirt with this on it:
• Chase Headley’s surprisingly bad defensive season continued with his 20th error last night. “I think the last six weeks he’s played a lot better at third,” Girardi said. “I think the errors have not come at a rapid pace for him. He made a tough play yesterday and threw the ball away but I feel good about Head there. It’s just for whatever reasons he’s made a few more errors this year but he continues to work at it.”
It's apparent the need for defense only applies to rookies.
Brian Mitchell deserves a chance to show he isn't worse than Nova, who has really had the mst stealth career imaginable.
On the subject of chemistry: I can buy into the idea that it makes a difference in a winning and losing club. What I would potentially have a problem with is guys essentially keeping their job for purely intangible reasons. At some point, on-field performance has to count for something. What they don't want to do is create an atmosphere where guys with a certain threshold of experience are allowed to stink because the team doesn't want to disrupt the clubhouse.
As we have said, this team is in the race because of what Teix and A-Rod have done. If that doesn't change, chemistry will mean less than nothing.
And to clarify, by change I mean them reverting to most of what they have been.
btw, It is a disgrace that Capuano is gainfully employed as a player.
If, in fact, that was Girardi's decision, fire his hideous butt.
Also, are the Mets so good all of a sudden because of chemistry, or because they fixed their offense to compliment just a stellar job of assembling a young starting rotation?
There is a chance that aggressive use of the AAA reinforcements come September 1st can really help. Will Joey use them or will he worry about offending his precious veterans.
I'll say it again, he is exactly the worst type of manager, for this team, at this point in time.
FWIW, my whole post about chemistry was not related to Drew or Ryan playing. It was simply a variable that I feel is often overlooked when building a roster. I agree that adding a player like Utley for nothing can't hurt but look at the Nationals. They added Papelbon, demoted their dominant closer in Storen and have been on a downward trend since. Albeit their manager is worse than Girardi but still, Papelbon is a terrible clubhouse guy and demoting a guy who has excelled clearly hurt the overall chemistry of the club.
I have no idea why Ryan or Drew are playing everyday and I'm not going to sit here and speculate over hearsay from the likes of Francessa or King. They aren't good, it's plain and simple and there's no excuse to justify why they are still playing.
The one good thing with Capuano is in games like last night, we don't have to waste actual bullpen arms to eat innings in a game where we weren't going to come back. I'm sure he's already been DFA.
Then I misunderstood your earlier comment about why CC and Drew are playing, although I completely understand the CC aspect. Money talks. Some fans used to post that money doesn't matter to the Yankees. Even under George it did. Sure, they eat contracts more easily than most other teams, but the bigger the contract, the longer the rope. Then add in CC's well-deserved reputation.
Drew's presence fills none of those boxes. It's riduclous after two such season.
I never liked Papsmear.
From his recent quotes, even Joey is concerned about the offense.
As good and A-Rod and Teix have been, do you go down with the ship with them if they don't turn it around? How long do they get?
These are tough questions, and they should be made from the to down.
We can only hope a quick resurgence moots them.
If Teix and A-Rod don't snap out of this funk, the team is going nowhere, period.
Cashman made good smaller moves over the offseason in acquiring Didi, Eovaldi, Wilson and Shreve (I fundamentally disagree with trading a starter for relievers, but no one can deny Shreve has contributed positively), and the front office was correct not to trade away top prospects for three-month rentals, but it was always going to come down to what A-Rod and Teix did.
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/8/26/9209553/red-sox-hanley-ramirez-first-base
If Sandoval moves to DH eventually, maybe they can take Headley off the Yankees' hands? (Who am I kidding?)
I view Eovaldi as a big move at this point, but the real problem was the failure to integrate younger, more dynamic, more versatile offensive players at the last Core declined, which is since 2010.
They were avowedly pitching-centric, and the chickens, although parried by Teix and A-Rod being unpredictably amazing, are circling the roost.
The $5m cannon fodder DFA'd yet again. They should be so proud of how they used that money. Who could have known???
Billy and Lawyer, I'm enjoying your civility:) You both bring a lot to th comments section.
And Greg Bird needs to lay off the high stuff. He's got a better eye than he's been showing lately.
Small steps, I guess.
I don't recall one media expert calling on them to get more offense at the deadline.
Maybe they thought Price would pitch every day...
This B. Serious.
I would pretty much start playing some Rail Riders position players.
Just alter their DOB's to fool Girardi.
How did Pineda look today? Based on box score, he ran into trouble in the 5th but doesn't seem like anything was hit hard. Also seems he was getting to 60 pitches, which would indicate he may have tired some since he only threw 60pitches last rehab outing.
More so looking for velocity and command report.
I only have the box score as well.
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PitchFx had him averaging 93 topping out at 96 -- that's a good sign.
Hate to see this stuff too but Shane Greene had season ending surgery on his shoulder.
He couldn't of gone from being good to bad that quickly without an injury.
And that's why I normally hate being on the receiving end of a trade for young pitching. But as I mentioned the Capuano thing and the need for more bats and fewer places to play them made me opposed to that trade
Relatedly, this team can't wait for contracts to expire to shoehorn in some dynamic younger bats. Veteran feelings are going to have to be ignored. I don't think the manager has what it takes to do that. We will find out whether the GM does
Wait. Ryan PH for Drew today??????????????????
In the words of John McEnroe: You cannot be serious?
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