Yanks at the Winter Meetings, Pt. 3
posted by Kalel9 @ 11:23 PM
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Tuesday, December 09, 2014
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There are already too many mediocre Dbacks on this roster. McCarthy and IPK aren't putting them over the top, which means they'd be a perfect fit.
I take a bit of hope from Cashman's comments about letting DRob go and getting the pick. He would look like some sort of fool if he then signed someone who cost the pick. On the other hand, it's not his usual way to be crowing about how he pulled one over the eyes of another team.
In terms of the bullpen, I think one important aspect is to have at least two bullpen pitchers who can go multiple innings competently. That sort of pitcher is especially useful in close games when you're behind, tie games, and extra innings games. It's always frustrating to lose 3-2 in 14 innings and not have a bullpen for the next day on top of that.
I guess a bit is fair, but the counterpoint is that while he brags about the yield from the extra picks two years ago, he avoids (and from what I have read, predictably isn't asked) about all the picks they decided to forfeit last year when they signed a bunch of free agents, none of whom were must haves.
With their offense, or lack thereof, they are going to be in a lot of close games as long as the starting pitching holds up. It's unavoidable.
Yanks seem to be in on Romo. So, I guess he would be the designated closer.
They don't need one.
I agree., but if it's a negligible 1 year deal, I don't much care.
ipk is with sd
I care because Goofy Joe will use him mechanistically.
I know, but at least that's who he would use that way. Instead of forcing Betances, Miller, Lindgren or Rumelow into the role.
I'd pass on Romo.Three teams looking at him so he wont be cheap and won't be worth the money and years it will cost.
Sherman:
The Yankees remained engaged. But the way I hear it, as their budget is currently set, if the Yankees pony up what it will take to sign Headley, then they will have to bottom-feed for starting pitching.
The Yankees did not really go beyond the three-year, $39 million range with Headley. But they know to get him, it almost certainly will take a four-year pact to land the third baseman. But they do not seem anxious to exceed $44 million to $48 million. If the switch-hitter indeed has that rumored $65 million proposal, the Yankees are said to be uninterested in approaching that.
If the Yankees sign Headley at any of the dollar figures, then they will not be able to do anything significant on a long-term deal with a starting pitcher at a time in which their rotation is rife with red flags for Masahiro Tanaka, CC Sabathia, Michael Pineda and Ivan Nova.
Now, keep in mind the Yankees have changed their budget in previous offseasons as ownership has seen a player they liked or a player who is perceived as the difference between being a playoff team and not.
But, as it stands currently, for the Yankees to invest more significantly in a starting pitcher, they would have to play Martin Prado at third base and an inexpensive player such as Jose Pirela or Rob Refsnyder at second. In that scenario, the Yankees would have an inexperienced double-play combo with either of those second basemen pairing with recently obtained shortstop Didi Gregorius.
No matter which way the Yankees go with their infield, I have heard they are against giving Brandon McCarthy a three-year deal because as good as the righty was for them after his July acquisition, his injury history is worrisome.
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No to McCarthy or Headley. Do something creative.
And again, if Headley was really offered $65m, there would already have been a presser with that moronic team.
Literally the one non-trade move left to make that isn't moronic is signing Scherzer. Of course, they'd look dumb for forfeiting the pick after saying that was the advantage of letting Robertson go, but he's one guy you could actually sort of justify giving a long-term deal to.
Questions about contradictory moves are a fat pitch for Cashman to spin away because the mediots who follow the team just nod when he prattles his bullshit.
But I would be shocked because Hal, by retaining this failed GM, obviously thinks the team is better than it is, so I can't see him handing out any more of his yacht money.
The more I think about it, Scherzer will really be a tell about whether or not Hal truly wants to win. Not that I think it's smart, and again, I would rebuild because this team is an absolute shit show unless almost all their old and injured players over-perform, but from Hal's perspective, spending is all he has to offer, so...
McCarthy may be going to the Didgere for 4 for $40; I hope So. Ensues that's nuts.
Nit a second guess. I would not have traded Greene.
I butchered the prior post.
Kendrick worry mooted.
McCarthy to the Dodgers. Four years, $48M.
That's a bullet dodged and another feather in my "Andrew Friedman is overrated" cap.
They don't have as many sunk costs or injury issues, so they can take risks that are imprudent for the Yankees. But yeah, that is a crazy contract unless the NYY SSS becomes his new normal.
And he stays healthy.
Yanks should just sign Headley, Romo and Kuroda
No Headley
Kemp to the Padres.
Porcelain for a Cespedes. Greene enabled them to do that. We will revert that trade.
Porcello
"Porcelain" is pretty funny.
We need Headley so Prado can play 2B
Refsnyder needs to be playing 2B, not Prado.
Refsnyder should play 2B if he can show he can field the position in ST.
Can't give up extra outs the way the SP looks at the moment.
This team needs runs. Defense is overrated. That is why I am skeptical about Didi
I agree LNJ but as far as Ref's goes there is a difference of limited range and not being able to turn the double play.I don't think putting a rookie under that pressure would work well. Lets see if he has improved enough before we just park him at second.A good ST would go along way for him in my book.
I'm not sure we do agree. I would start Refs. There is going to be pressure on him, although much less than Gregorious, but when a team doesn't hit, that's the unfortunate reality.
As strange as it may sound, the player who I think is most likely to turn it around is Beltran, but I hate the idea of playing him the OF most days at 38.
When you look at the Tigers, Sox, Jays, and a few other teams, the Yankees' lineup probably won't measure up.
At some point, this team is going to have to start giving its prospects a chance instead of weaving its way from one excuse to the next as to why it can't.
Refsnyder can learn how to turn the double play over the course of the season. Despite Hal's proclamations, this team isn't doing anything next year, so it's the perfect time to ease him (and others) in.
There really isn't anything they can do that would dramatically change their outlook, except maybe Scherzer as long Tanaka and Pineda pitch up to the best case scenario.
So I think the smart play is to hedge.
IOW, they are stuck with A-Rod, Tex, Prado and Beltran for at least two years.
They have to hope that McCann can adjust to the reality of the shift.
Gardner and Ellsbury should be solid but unspectacular if they can stay on the field.
So that leaves two positions that can allow them to be forward looking, SS and 2B.
Is Gregorious more than a younger Ryan? That remains to be seen.
Refs, however, has some offensive upside.
Don't penalize him because of the Prado and Gregorius trades, each of which are questionable for different reasons.
Obviously, if an OF or 1B or C prospect over-performs, that would present another opportunity to be forward looking.
In this way, they can prepare for the future and not destroy any more roster flexibility on a roster without much flexibility.
There are no reasons — only excuses — as to why Refsnyder can't get a shot. Like Lawyer said, don't penalize him for the Gregorious trade.
Reason being he can't play defense? That's more than enough for someone not to be called up.
Being a liability in the field completely offsets any offensive production.
New thread.
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