And this morning, the Yanks are in agreement with JA Happ on a new three year deal. This is from Rosenthal. The dollars seem reasonable. This means they keep Florial. Happ has been very good over the past four seasons. He slots in at #4 now, but becomes CC as soon as next season. I would not be surprised if he is very comparable to Corbin over the first two years of the deal, and the term and dollars are such that he can be traded to make room for Clarke Schmidt or whoever's next from the farm.
UPDATE: Rosenthal might have been ahead of himself. This is still developing.
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Bad move if true
I think it's pretty neutral, but it will help us win the division.
A fastball reliant pitcher with declining spin rates at his age is a huge question mark.
And if it is for three years, it’s kind of weird that their term limited approach to contracts falls apart for the oldest person they pursued.
They really should have at least tried to pursue Eovaldi harder even if it meant simply making the Sox overpay.
I mentioned that Corbin will be as old at the end of his new deal as Happ will be at the start of any new deal. Still, if he's back, he and CC will be good for Paxton, and his top of the rotation future.
I don’t see how they try to limit Machado in years if they give Happ three years, It seems like they don’t know what they’re doing.
It seems like we don't know what they're doing.
We know what they didn’t do.
Red flags
http://riveraveblues.com/2018/12/yankees-stand-ground-not-offer-j-happ-third-year-181892/
Yet we have not seen why, if they have margins they must mind for something spectacular it will make sense.
Maybe if they get off this idea that anyone is going to give them a discount.
Hoch keeps saying they are going to screw the Happ pooch.
Charlie Morton to the Rays for 2/30M.
I’d rather have him. More upside, but we really don’t have a pitching coach.
TB is the reason that any complacency from Yankees, which I believe we have been seeing, may backfire.
Are you seeing the Yanks refusal to deal Floria for a Kluber or Bauer as complacency or something you agree with?
Bauer is young enough to consider trading Florial for given that they will likely re-up Hicks (I mean, they are saying they want Didi long-term and Hicks is much less likely to age poorly at the plate so ...).
The question is what else would be necessary to get Bauer in addition to Florial, and I personally don’t like his public statements about “current events” stuff, which makes trading for difficult.
But baseball-wise he could help a lot.
On complacency. I’m referring to Gardner when you have Ellsbury and after his really bad 2nd half production, and CC who has a very small margin for error, and will be on the DL at some point.
And then keeping Rothschild and Thames.
Then Happ at 36 for 3. or 2 and a very make-able 3rd year option.
Paxson doesn’t compensate for that, imo.
Lance Lynn got three years from Texas.
Btw, I'm with you on the coaching staff. I also understand why the Yanks want to keep CC and Gardy, who have rings, around for the young guys who do not). Thought Corbin was the move, but also think, the Yanks have a lot of pitchers coming along over the next several years that have higher potential than Corbin. Also remember, so far, they have kept their draft picks and IFA pool intact (Corbin would have cost a pick and Harper would cost a pick and IFA compensation). Now they wouldn't go to six on Corbin, likely because he went from working 94 to working 92, and may have some data about that.
Happ was great during the regular season and had a bad start in the post season. But, if Sevy is back to being Sevy, he might not have to pitch in the post season.
Btw, Danny Borrell will have Sevy in Tampa again in ST and will fix him. Sevy loves him, and I guess he'd already be the PC but he runs the the pitching program for the whole system.
Reds got Tanner Roark, so they're probably out on Sonny Gray.
If the goal was to excite the fan base this offseason, then they’ve got a lot of ground to make up for. Someone wake me up when this team does something.
It's a good move for a finesse guy. Heyman says its 2 years with an option and wont break the bank.
Feinsand: “Source: Yankees and J.A. Happ have agreed to the structure on a contract that would be two years plus an option for a third year based on innings pitched/starts. Deal still being finalized, plus physical.”
A vesting option can be managed. Whatever. It’s basically insurance. Still not a rotation that inspires confidence, but there’s still time to add a frontline starter.
@MarcCarig: In addressing Bryce Harper, Brian Cashman called the Yankees a “fully operational Death Star.” Translation: Yankees always ready to pivot.
@lindseyadler: Brian Cashman says that once they have another starting pitcher in place it will allow them "to pivot and focus further on other aspects of the roster, too."
@pcaldera: NYY GM Brian Cashman on the idea of being on the 2-yard line for Happ: "Hard to ever say I’m close on anything because until you’re done, you never know.''
Securing Happ wouldn't necessarily take NYY out of the starting pitchign mkt (they've discussed Yusei Kikuchi).
So now it looks like two and an option. Fine with that.
Meh
They should sign Harper and Machado to compensate for Cashman’s underwhelming decision making.
Bob Nightengale: “The #Yankees expected to finalize JA Happ’s contract tomorrow. It will be a 2-year deal with a vesting option worth $34-35 million.”
This is a lot of money committed between CC, Gardner and Happ just to maintain the status quo of a squad that was 10 games worse than Boston. If they’re gonna spend big on Harper/Machado/elsewhere, fine. If not, this is just insulting fans’ intelligence.
This has been a very disappointing off-season from my perspective, but I’m not surprised by it. There’s a reason Boston has out-executed them for about 15 years, and it revolves around sub optimal decision making.
Let’s start kicking ass before it’s too late.
OT:Trier 2/$7.5, Baker waived. Going undrafted worked out well for him.
I thought Trier might get more but he's been off and had the groin over the last two weeks. Still great pick-up.
Yanks lost Nick Green in the MLB portion of the Rule 5.
the lost Mark Payton, Alexander Vargas, Chris Rabago, Gilmael Troya and Anyelo Gomez in the minor league portion.
New Yankee post.
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