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Tuesday, December 29, 2015

Yanks Farm Stuff

Yesterday, the Yanks' DEEP farm system gave up a classic power pitching starter, as well as grinding professional hitter with positiona uncertainty and not name Rob Refnsyder.   Both Rookie Davis and Eric Jagielo appeared in most of the Yankee Top 10's that have been circulating this offseason, and though it's a deep farm, they were at the upper levels, and both will play in the majors (unless Jagielo's health augers otherwise, and let's hope he's blessed with the opportunity).

So where is the Yankee farm now?   It's still DEEP.  Another sign of that is how regularly their getting plundered in the Rule 5. Happened again this year.  But while the Yankee farm is almost 1950's level deep, it doesn't, just now appear to have a ton of future all stars waiting in the wings.   That's partly because they wouldn't spend what they could have in the draft or IFA, haven't had a ton of first round picks like some other teams, and have refused to get into young Cuban speculation.

Still the Yanks, through sound, and I think, insightful scouting, in both the  draft and IFA, do control a lot of guys who will play in the bigs. and Given their draft positions, and weird ownership decisions,  that's impressive.

Last year they reconfigured their system, replacing Mark Newman with Gary Tuck (in a seemingly smaller job) and moving coaches or dismissing coaches throughout the chain.   They also elevated their Analytics team into a full department and fired up a sports science division. This offseason, Gil Patterson went back to the A's, while Danny Borrell and Scott Aldred were pugged into his job.  And there were probably some other moves as well, for example, I don't know who the AAA staff is right now.

It also seems like they're letting guys move up a little faster, than they had been.  Sure, some like Judge and Wade struggled after promotion, they still earned the chances and will adjust.   It's far better to continually make them adapt than to let them dominate lesser players for full seasons.  So that's probably a better strategy, if it is indeed a strategy and not just based on what a few prospects showed they could do.

A couple of things I would still like to see are a super focus on grinding AB's, serious offseason (instructs, January sessions) bunting program for the fast guys,  and some sort of revolution in the way they teach defense.

Btw, I think there is a pretty good focus on grinding, as we saw when Bird and Refsnyder got AB's, but they both have the walk gene, anyway.  It's guys like Jorge Mateo, who aren't grinding enough.  I'd like him a lot more if he took his walks.   Right now, I'm leaning toward Wilkerman Garcia, who at 17 came over to the GCL and grinded, as the SS of th future.  Though that could change as the Yanks have a ton of SS prospects who can stay at the position or move to second right now.

Also, it's guys like Jorge Mateo who need the bunting program.  Look, I hate sacs bunts as much as the next guy, but guys like Mateo have to learn to make bunts a weapon, like Mickey Mantle, Ty Cobb, and Brett fricking Butler used to do.   They're a great tool for for fast guys, and can really add to their times on base, as well as destabilize opposing defenses.

And Mateo could also use more work on his D.  Now,  he's not who I was thinking about when I said they should revolutionize their defensive schooling, guys like Refs and Jags were, but Mateo's still not a finished product at SS, either.   Though no one is saying he'll have to be a 2B, he is a little wild on D.  Guys shouldn't be reaching the higher levels with positional uncertainty, playing D in any sport is about "want to" and reps.

So, where are the super impact prospects going to come from?   Barring a last minute free agent splurge, the Yanks should once again have a top 20 first round draft pick, and a workable bonus pool. That will help, like this past year's draft where the Yanks added Kaprielian, Degano, and a bunch of other arms, and even some advanced, toolsy hitters.

This is the second year of their IFA punishment, but remember guys like Mateo, Acevedo and Severino were low dollar signings, so, gold might still be found in a punishment year.

Also, the Yanks may already have some super impact guys. Remembr the 30 or so they signed in July of 14? Some of them could start popping at any time. Wilkerman already has and he wasn't the most highly regarded.

So, given the penalties, yesterday's trade and and no last minute free agent signings, the Farm is in good shape and should keep trending up.

29 Comments:

At 9:32 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Lawyer, in response to Harper's column: He tries to draw a parallel between Chapman and Greg Hardy, which I think is a stretch at this time considering no evidence of physical assault was found during police investigation. Again, if all he did was poke her and discharge a firearm on an intimate object, it certainly warrants being addressed in some way by MLB, but it's not enough for me to say, "Don't touch this guy."

If the Yankees are wrong about this, though, and he did indeed hurt her, they deserve every bit of criticism heaped their way as a result.

 
At 9:35 AM, Blogger Billy Martin said...

Agreed with your comment Mike. The media today is a savage beast and is quickly to demonize players without any credible evidence.

Anyway, good post Phil. I'd like to hear more about the elevation of the Analytics department. When I was there, they were grouped in with Baseball Ops, so curious to see how they've expanded. I also like hearing about Sports Science -- it's something the Knicks do and is never reported on but I would like to be at the forefront of that stuff, similar to what Cuban does for the Mavs.

 
At 9:38 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

The key still remains will top young players, especially those not in the highest tier, receive the opportunity that Didi got, and Hicks probably will? To this point the Refs/Slade/Williams types are too easily supplanted, either by taking on yet another guaranteed contract, like Castro, or a fairly high risk guy like Hicks.

They are still only one to two years away from foolishly clogging up the roster with overpaid, declining, and/or fragile veterans.

Another issue is who plays 3B when/if Headley goes down or sucks, Refs? Castro?

So the mL system may look better, but without a sustained accompanying commitment at the ML level,it could be deja vu all over again.

 
At 9:41 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

As for FLA law enforcement and Chapman, all he has to do is get his wife not to cooperate with the investigation. We have seen it happen forever, even with managers like Bobby Cox.

 
At 9:46 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

He wasn't married to the woman and "no marks" seems to coroborate the he said version.

 
At 9:46 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

I was against the Hicks trade since people are saying John Ryan Murphy projects as a starting catcher, but from a standpoint of him versus Heathcott/Williams getting playing time, the Yankees are still in win-now mode, and they wanted a guy who could hit lefties without overpaying Young. Further, Heathcott and Williams will have to prove they can stay healthy.

I'm convinced the Yankees don't believe Refsnyder can hit MLB pitching. Thing is, they'd better be right, because I'd much rather have Warren and Refsnyder than Castro with Refsnyder in AAA.

Headley gets the team's veteran exemption (I.E. plays no matter what) unless he gets hurt, largely because there isn't much around that could immediately take over for him.

 
At 9:48 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

The Yanks don't believe that Refs can't hit MLB pitching. You don't even have to be a scout to see his AB's and realize he can.

 
At 9:57 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Married or not the point remains, and when there is a huge physical (and yes, also a financial) disparity between a man and woman, marks cannot reasonably be the sole test.

It is a complicated issue that is usually not a one-off situation.

 
At 10:00 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Win-now is the most illusory concept in pro sports, and is often just an excuse for pretending.

 
At 10:02 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

How else do you test for choking or manual strangulation? It leaves marks. Also, that the man has much money is also impetus for false claims. Who knows what happened? But if he had choked her, there should have been marks.

 
At 10:41 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

If one person is much bigger, they can merely put their hands on another person and tell them what might happen if x or y occurs. We saw Rice's wife make excuses even after being KO'd on tape, and if iirc, she had no marks.

There are no easy answers, and yes a woman can exploit the situation, but it's a very slippery slope for everyone, including employers.

Also, let's acknowledge that the very talented get more chances no matter what the underlying facts are.

 
At 10:45 AM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

Great analysis -- I agree with everything you say, especially the importance of hitters learning to grind out pesky ABs and to learn to bunt. In this age of the shift, it would even behove pull hitters to learn to bunt if for no other reason than to deter use of the shift against them; that's exactly what Mantle did. I agree with you generally about sac bunts -- I generally don't like them with a runner on 1st and no out -- but they can be useful in specific situations, especially when you need one run (e.g. runner on 2d & 0 out or runner on 3d and <2 outs). Dick Williams was a master at this with the A's in extra inning situations.

Thanks and happy new year!

 
At 1:03 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

But Rice is not an apples-to-apples comparison, because we DID have video evidence of exactly what occurred in his case. I get that there's is concern with Chapman — heck, I'm wary of the deal myself because of the allegations — but I can't in good conscience say he shouldn't be a Yankee over something that hasn't been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have happened.

 
At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

Whether he should be allowed to play baseball does not have to be judged on a reasonable doubt standard, as it does not equate to criminal liability. If it is thought unfair to use the preponderance (51%) standard, perhaps the clear and convincing test, which is greater than preponderance but less than reasonable doubt, might apply.

 
At 4:34 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Chip Kelly fired

 
At 4:48 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

They will likely never know the truth either, Mike, whether it is inculpatory or exculpatory.

Again, talent gets multiple chances in any walk of life.

Stot

The true standard may be his FB velo.

 
At 6:58 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

No doubt that's true, Lawyer.

Heyman:
sources: stephen drew has deal with nats. $3M plus $1.25M incentives

 
At 7:11 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Drew and Murphy. If I was a Nat fan, I would freak.

It's amazing how sucky players can make so much money for so long.

 
At 4:55 AM, Anonymous Bob said...

Wouldn't surprise me to see Ryan back with the Yankees as they need a backup to play 3B.

 
At 7:23 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

You have to hit to play 3B. They ate not that dumb.

 
At 8:15 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

OT, but the thing that happened to Early makes me mad. I wish him the best.

 
At 9:47 AM, Anonymous Bob said...

Well perhaps Kozma makes the team out of ST as we need someone that can spell Headley.

 
At 12:12 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Wouldn't surprise me at all if they reacquired Ryan. Girardi loves his comfort players, and now that Capuano is off the team, goodness knows he needs at least ONE of those guys.

I wish all ballplayers had the attitude Andrew Miller does:
"I signed with the Yankees to win and I'm not stupid, he's a heck of a pitcher," Miller told NJ Advance Media in a phone interview Tuesday. "This is what I signed up for. I signed up to play for the Yankees, to win championships, and if (general manager Brian) Cashman and the Stenbrenners and whoever is part of the decision-making process thinks this is part of the answer, and that this is the way to go about it, that's fine by me."

 
At 1:36 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

My guess is that Miller is gone if Chap doesn't get suspended; too many holes.

I will give them credit on Ryan until I can't.

 
At 7:58 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Kashmir to the LAD

 
At 8:01 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

I thought the Yanks might do that, but perhaps they are serious about getting a young starter.

 
At 2:09 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

I doubt the Yankees will sign anyone who has a QO.

 
At 9:28 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

The Didgers signed Maeda.


 
At 2:16 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

A reasonable take by Olney;

http://espn.go.com/blog/buster-olney/insider/post?id=11973

FWIW, Heyman hears it won't be long, but what would be long?

 

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