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Sunday, May 10, 2015

Yanks: Ace

Even with Tanaka on the shelf, the Yanks appear to have an ACE.  Michael Pineda struck out 16 birds without walking 1, of 7 innings of 1 run baseball.  McCann and Beltran did the heavy lifting again -- and anyone in the pen not named Betances or Miller continued to cry for an upgrade.

Down on the farm, Severino had his 3rd rough start in a row.  Hopefully he's just working on something and nothing troubling is up.  We'll see.  Judge and Jagiello should probably both be in  AAA, btw.

23 Comments:

At 1:36 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Recently read a scout's report that says no chance Jagielo sticks at third. :-/ Still, with that bat, they should probably try to make room, or include him in a deal for a bat.

The non-BM pen has frustrated of late, but I'm willing to give Carpenter a longer leash than the others due to his numbers in Atlanta.

 
At 2:02 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Scouts aren't all knowing. Schmidt and Boggs were both bad 3B's when they showed up but kept working and became good.

We need Lindgren. Also, Goody seems back to pre-injury form.

 
At 2:52 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Very impressive outing.

Just stay healthy, Big Mike.

 
At 3:25 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

• Back to Pineda: He threw 111 pitches, which was a career high. Girardi said he didn’t know Pineda was two strikeouts away from a franchise record, and frankly, he didn’t care. “You have to remember Michael’s coming off a pretty serious injury,” Girardi said. “What he had is not something is not in the back of my mind in managing him through the course of a season. He doesn’t have that injury, maybe it’s a different story.”
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Great job by Girardi to be cognizant of that.

 
At 4:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/madden-michael-pineda-matt-harvey-hype-article-1.2217541

Now Showalter was able to see first-hand in Pineda what no other team in the AL East, including his, has: a bona fide No. 1 starter. They’re not easy to come by, and a lot of times they take a few years before they reach that pinnacle. In Cashman’s case, he had to give up a player who all the scouts agreed had big-time power who, even if he had to move off catcher, would be a much-needed force at Safeco Field for the offensively challenged Mariners. Except that Montero lazied himself out of the big leagues and is now playing first base at Triple-A Tacoma, ensuring that this is one deal for which Cashman can take a bow.

 
At 7:22 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Montero is the Trent Richardson of the NFL -- I.E. I can only wonder why in the world he's not dominant.

 
At 7:22 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Trent Richardson of MLB that is.***

 
At 8:42 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

@pinstripealley: 93 pitchers have already reached 10 walks on the season
Michael Pineda has allowed 10 walks total since the start of 2014 (122 2/3 innings)

Obviously, you have to take last year's injury into account with those numbers, but that's insane. Good for Big Mike. Love pitchers who trust their stuff and don't try to nibble.

 
At 9:38 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

If Pineda completes the season without any injury issues, finding common ground to avoid arbitration probably won't be as easy as last season.

His history presents significant risk/reward for both sides in any negotiation to extend him longer term.

I would rather see them take on risk with pitchers under 30 than over it.

 
At 12:09 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

So, Posada is apparently going to release a tell-all book that details his rift with Girardi, as well as the reason for losing in the 2010 and '11 postseasons being the team wasn't as "loose" as it was in 2009.

http://www.pinstripealley.com/yankees-editorials-opinions-analysis/2015/5/11/8585015/jorge-posada-criticizes-joe-girardi-yankees-catcher-manager-2011

 
At 12:29 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

I read the article in the NYDN and the link contained within it to a 2011 article that talks about how he ignored Girardi's game plans in 2005, when he was Torre's coach, which reportedly made Joey G. livid.

It obviously doesn't reflect well on Girardi, but Cashman had to know all this shit when he hired him to manage, and it was obviously foreseeable that there could be tension between them.

So this was an organizational failure, unless you are of the belief that Posada's feelings were less important than Girardi's (or any manager's) ability to manage the team how he saw fit.

It also sounds like there has been a systemic leadership failure within the team for years, given Posada's comments that his and Jeter's advice was ignored.

It is impossible to know if all of this is true.

It has the ring of truth, imo, because their on the field performance has been in decline for years, but then again, so has the talent.

A lot of things have been breaking right, in contrast, this season to date, some by accident (A-Rod), some by design (the late inning dominance).

Let's hope that continues.

 
At 12:55 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

I don't hold this one against Girardi. Particularly in his latter years, Posada was not a good catcher, especially as a receiver and a game caller. He never framed pitches or blocked the plate. I have a vivid memory of him catching Chamberlain with David Wright up and men on base. Chamberlain got to 0-2 and Posada sets up a mile outside -- certainly too far to fool Wright, who has a pretty good eye. So Chamberlain misses and Posada does it again, and we went from 0-2 to 2-2, and Wright ultimately walked. Now I may be crazy, but that's just not the way to pitch to Wright -- if you're going to waste one do it where you might actually fool him. And with Chamberlain, who was up and down emotionally, I'd prefer to have him throw his nastiest pitch right on the black and in a tough spot for Wright and essentially tell Wright to do his best, with a good chance of getting Strike 3 called. Yes this was one at bat but I was frustrated watching plenty of others. So I don't hold it against Girardi for not wanting Posada to catch, rather Posada who was supposed to be such a professional ought not to have sulked.

The notion that Posada should be close to HOF does not fly in my book. He wasn't especially valuable as a member of the late '90's team -- the key hitters were Bernie, O'Neill, Tino, & Jeter. He certainly wouldn't have started ahead of either Elston Howard or Thurman Munson -- I doubt he would have made the '61 team, certainly not as a catcher.

 
At 1:26 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

If you look at his similarity scores:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/posadjo01.shtml

he's very close to HoF.

And it goes beyond style.

He was an indispensable part of several WS teams.

If he is telling the truth (I highlight if), he should not have been treated thay way.

It's more than about catching. It's about total value. His OPS+ in 2009 was 125, even above his 121 career mark.

So let's be real. Girardi may not appreciate the value of an offensive catcher, but the history of baseball does.

They are extremely rare and have tremendous value because when you are offensively strong at positions where offense isn't typically high, you are at a advantage relative the the rest of the competition.

 
At 1:46 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Personally, I've always felt (based on convos I've had with people who would know) the dynasty players were an entitled bunch who created the "un-fun" clubhouse we heard so much about during the mid-2000s. Mo and Jeter's public comments during contract negotiations backs this up, and I also heard Pettitte pitched a fit one offseason when the Yankees were going year to year with him and he wasn't being offered the salary he wanted to stay unretired.

I have no problem with Cashman/Girardi telling Posada he couldn't catch. The way the organization treated Bernie and Torre on their way out was much more egregious, IMO.

 
At 2:07 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

I would differ with you on Torre, Mike.

He, like I believe Cashman at this point, had been there too long.

He was still offered a very generous contact, just less than the salary he was making.

Let's be honest. Stick and Buck did the heavy lifting, building a team that made the playoffs for the first time since '81 (and they would have made it the year before but for the lockout).

They put in place a core that lasted for over 15 years.

What was their reward?

See ya.

 
At 2:28 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Oh, I totally agree that it was Torre's time to go. He enabled the crappy clubhouse culture that I mentioned with his favoritism toward the dynasty players. But they should have been far more tactful about it, if Torre's re-telling of the story is accurate.

His contract was up. Simply thank him for his time, then tell him they want to bring in some fresh faces. Don't do the BS thing and give him an offer you know he'll turn down -- nobody was fooled by that dog-and-pony show, and they're idiots to think they could get away with it.

Sure, there would have been hard feelings at first if they did it my way. But Torre at least deserved a better departure. Instead, they ended up with egg on their faces while Torre was made into a sympathetic figure, even though it was past time for him to retire.

 
At 3:39 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

I wish he had been fired after the 2004 debacle.

 
At 5:58 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

CC and Beltran producing?

 
At 6:30 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Maybe I was wrong about Beltran. I was wrong about Giambi back in '05 so it wouldn't be the first time. They need his bat to produce for sure.

 
At 6:40 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

Howard and Munson didn't come close to HOF. Both were far better catchers than Posada -- nobody would play Posada as catcher over them. As a hitter, Posada batted near the bottom of the order. Bernie and O'Neill and Tino were far more important hitters in the lineup, and none of them are going to the HOF. If the Yankees had to choose between trading any of them or Posada for a specific player, I think the only one you would arguably trade ahead of Posada would be Tino. That's not HOF in my book.

 
At 8:23 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Munson declined too early. He was ostensibly done at 30.

Howard wasn't nearly as good as Posada offensively.

Doing what Posada did offensively, as a catcher at such a late age is pretty remarkable in MLB history.

 
At 8:31 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Looking at Howard's stats some more, maybe he hurt himself by playing so long at a declined level.

But really, any way you view it, I don't see how that diminishes what a great career Posada had.

 
At 9:21 AM, Anonymous MBN said...

Posada had an excellent career, especially offensively. With him behind the plate, the Yankees had an advantage in any series over their opponent at Catcher from the late 1990s through roughly 2007 or so. After that, Jorge's catching abilities deteriorated significantly. Forget the defensive stats - I am talking the "eye test".

He looked bad behind the plate.

This does not take away from his career at all. Personally, I think he just misses the HOF. To me, if you have to think about the worthiness of a guy, then he does not belong. But, that's just me.

One more thing. Jorge should shut-up about his issues with the Yankee FO and Girardi in the last few seasons of his career. He was paid 13 million big ones to do as you are told, and be a good soldier.

 

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