Betemit!
It seems there's a 50/50 chance the Yanks will pick up the versatile Wilson Betemit from the Dodgers for the durable Scott Proctor. I'm with the 50 who says we get him. I read a report where an NL scout was bashing him, but I see a player who is finally understanding the strikezone and taking some walks. He still has some upside now that the strikezone is a friend, and it would be nice to see the Yanks benefit from the switch hitting Betemit. Make it happen, Cash!UPDATE: This is the latest Yankee! Way to go, Cash! Now fix the Pen!
posted by Kalel9 @ 10:52 PM
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we gotta make this and gagne happen
If we can come out of this trade deadline with Betemit, Gagne and Damaso Marte then I will be a happy camper.
At the same time unloading Proctor, Farnsworth and others.
I agree with both Dan and Anthony, Proctor and Farns are addition by subtraction, and Gagne will solidify the pen.
Supposedly Boston is close to getting Gagne according to Olney and Stark..
for Craig Hansen, but no one has been able to confirm this report.
reports coming out now, that texas will sign gagne to an extension
Ugh. I hope not true
I don't believe Hansen has any value, and Boston's not on Gagne's trade list. I think they are just trying to get more out of the Yanks.
It would seem like it. Do we have the best offer on the table?
I would imagine so, cause we're the deepest farm of the three (Milwaukee's farm is good too, though). Anyway if the Yanke, Sox and Mets are protecting their A prospects, the Yankee's B prospects are better than the Sox or Mets B prospects.
Could we get him for B prospects or will we have to throw an A prospect in there?
it's a relative term, but we're not throwing in any of the players on the safe list.
foxsports says were almost out of deal because Cash believes hes going to mets, redsox or brewers
okay, NEXT!
That's what I wanted to hear. T-minus 4 hours, hopefully we hear some news soon on a few different fronts..
its not okay, if we keep this bullpen we are flucked
dan, do you know what Joba Chamberlain did last night?
yea i saw his stats in AAA, do you know what happens when torre over uses him and he hurts himself and then were flucked...because this orginization is gonna make a move to bring up a starting pitcher to be a reliever
Stat last night in AAA***
they're not gonna let Torre abuse him. but between Mo, Viz and Joba, we're in much better shape than we were when we played Sunday.
Looks like Dye to Boston according to 1050 ESPN and Chicago Sun Times.
What did Boston give up?
i would rather have gagne then Viz
it was a minor league pitcher trying to get the name
so would everyone on earth with a pulse. But I'd rather have Alan Horne than Gagne and it looks like we've draw a line. Cash will probably get something else done for the pen if not Gagne.
Just A minor league pitcher?
Proctor done deal for betemit
Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!
correction on Dye report said Delcarmen and Willy Mo for Dye.
i dont think were done yet
That's still not much.
ESPN Radio in NY saying Boston making big push for Gagne.
I agree Dan we are not done.
dan I don't either.
btw, Joba's fastball was 99 and 100 last night, and his slider was 90! He got one of his three K's with a curveball!
Good first move by Cash, I agree with the resident Yankee experts more is coming.
btw 1:30 on ESPN they are having a live trade special show
my satellite receiver blew yesterday and they can't get me a new one till tomorrow.
Damn them! attend to this matter today sattelite company :)
I will keep posting anything I hear on the blog as I will have it on.
Matt SGS over on BBI is speculating that we may have gotten Gagne based on another source he trusts. Not confirming anything however.
Boston traded Piniero to St Louis for a prospect.
Matt in SGS has always had really good sources.
I agree with that. He said that he was basing his speculation on River Fan whom knows someone in the LA front office. Saying Yanks were the holdup on the Proctor trade, pending something else(Gagne). He says he thinks the Buster Olney report Boston is in the lead is a plant to drive the price up, and thinks it will work. I think he is right with his opinion.
I don't think Buster did that on purpose, if he was mislead it was by someone who wanted to drive the price up, not Olney himself.
I agree that Buster is merely reporting what he hears. My gut feeling says he gets traded before 4pm.
now gagne is out of the picture again, i wonder who were working on...dotel/reyes maybe
where did Gagne go?
nowhere, its just being reported were out of it again, because cashman doesnt want to give up horne
let's see what happens. And Horne should be a deal breaker. Peter Abraham says Edwar is coming back up for Bruney who will go down and get fixed.
One thing that bugs me, is our major leagu pitching coaches are not as good as our minor league pc's at fixing these cats.
I think Texas will blink on Gagne, and if we get him it will be for something like the rumored deal last night.
yea thats a very good statemnt about our ML pitchng
ML Pitching Coaches***
A very telling statement.. Was Gator Cash's choice?
it took all of 1 minute to fix Edwar once he went back down.
I think so, but it might have been Joe's idea.
or rather, it might have been who Cash had to get to make Joe shut up about Mel.
I still think we are getting another reliever, and Farnsworth is out. I am not sure they think Edwar can take on a heavy load yet. He will certainly be used more but if he is used at a Proctor rate he will burn out twice as fast.
i think Gator was also Georges Idea
i cant believe im saying this but if we dont trade for another reliever we cant trade farnsworth
I'm sure we are trading for another reliever.
every year, the Yanks make a move or two right at the deadline, sometimes, we don't hear about them till after the deadline.
No offense to Gator, but should't he be able to fix our ML pitchers? Which is why I asked who really wanted him. Phil makes an excellent point our minor league coaches can fix our guys faster then the major leaguers..
it might have to do with scheduling, and the fact that our major league coaches know the proper mechanics for Pettitte, Moose, etc but just don't know anything about these kids from the minors (though clearly Gator has studied Hughes).
Gammons said Mets are out of it for Gagne, Olney says Mets focusing on Cordero.
keep it coming, I got no tv till tomorrow!
you got it!! Gammons says the Dye deal is off for now Boston wont deal DelCarmen.
Olney says Red Sox in lead for Gagne. Says not sure if Gagne waives no trade.
Olney is saying what he's been fed. They don't want to make the Yanks think they have no hope, so...
From what you can gather are we seriously in the Gagne talks do we have a legit shot?
as long as no deal sending him elsewhere is announced, we have a shot.
Olney will have a new update when they return from commercial.
Gordon Edes is reporting Texas may try to resign Gagne
Starks just said its down between Red Sox and Brewers for Gagne
doubtful, this is all an attempt to get the Yanks to give up Horne.
Stark/Gammons say Brewers or Red Sox for Gagne
Let's get Marte, then.
big difference
Marte's have a GREAT year and is a former Yankee prospect.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7072074
almost done deal for Gagne to Boston...horne..flucking horne
You're mad we didn't trade Horne?
you know what i am and so are other yankee fans...you have Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, Sanchez...you can risk trading one pitcher to win it this season...with the bullpen we have right now were not going far in the playoffs if we even make it
that's plain wrong. Whoever trades for Gagne is getting twenty innings. We get to keep six years of Alan Horne, who I have seen twice and would be the #1 pitcher on a lot of other farms. If we get Marte, dump Farns and call up Edwar and Joba we have an awesome pen.
i understand that but if you let gagne go to the red sox of all teams, its just not cool
heyman said its done deal...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/07/31/gagne.redsox/index.html
At least we have farnsworth still
I can't tell you how many times the Red Sox have made some amazing deal and still failed to win. Actually I can. All but once in the modern era. I love Edwar and Joba (who will be tightly controlled by forces above Joe Torre) and if we get Marte or another part, we will have kicked butt. We can hit Okajima and Paplebon.
Heyman reporting it now
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/07/31/
gagne.redsox/index.html
He still has to waive his no trade.
talks of Humber for Cordero...(mets-nationals)...horrible trade for mets
Omar is dumb.
Olney reports it as well, saying they still have to agree to waive no-trade.
Boras is Gagne's agent, right?
Yes Boras is Gagne's agent.
Yea he might give Boston a hard time
Philips says Tigers want to get Marte and Wilson in a package deal.
Stark says Dotel still in play. Teams are calling Braves about Wickman.
Rangers have not signed off on Tex deal according to Stark.
Stark says Murky Gabbard from Boston about Gagne, says they are dealing with Boras now.
Says none of the Atlanta deals are official.
Phillips not so sure Red Sox will be able to negotiate with Boras.
I mean Murphy, not Murky.
under ninety minutes left.
i swear to god Gammons makes every Boston Prospect sound like Phil Hughes...Its Gross...I think Texas gives Boston 1 hour to get deal done with boras/gagne which is 330 and if not they find another suitor
I hope Boras blocks the Gagne deal.
I hope Cash isn't sitting around waiting for that to happen.
I think the package from Boston is weak compared to our offer.
Stark had a lot of good info, he seems to be most on the ball of the Insiders.
It is weak compared to our offer.
It sounds like exactly what you said earlier Phil, Texas wants us to up the ante.. Their loss if they settle on the Boston deal.
Matt In SGS makes an excellent point on Gagne, saying that going to Boston may decrease his future trade value.
Ravech just said White Sox looking to extend Dye. They promise to have a Gagne update after the break.
its gonna be the same thing that Boras is talking with Boston
Amy Nelson is reporting they are talking about restructuring Gagne's deal. Talking about moving costs as well.
Stark just said Dotel to Braves Offical
meaningless.
Olney says Yankees were told to get Gagne they had to give up Kennedy or Melky for him.
Sox may have included Engle Beltre in the Gagne deal.
Phillips saying we should have given up Melky. There was another prospect Olney mentioned possibly going to Boston missed his name.
That's the name I missed. Thank you
Yanks are thinking too highly of Melky, to fucking highly
you mean going to Texas. And that Phillips thinks Melky should have been traded shows why he is sitting there and not making deals today.
Yes thank you Phil going to Texas.
i forgot us yankee fans think every young player is our future
dan, wise up. The kid is 22, the second best defensive CF in the AL, and his OPS have been over .800 since he got the CF job. He's had a big July and his arrow is pointing up.
I hear Phillips was bad mouthing Melky, too, and he's a fucking imbecile with a looooong track record of being so.
we all have our opinons and im just saying i dont think Melky is our future
Phillips said Yankees should have traded him, and looked at a Hunter in the off-season as a free agent.
he probably is till Carlos Urena is ready. He's a little ahead of where Bernie was at 22.
Hunter's having a way out of context year, but he generally is the most overrated player in the world.
55 minutes left.
It's amazing how we always have to overpay teams in trades. Boston with this deal and Schilling are proof of that.
I hope GM's learn Cash wont overpay.
what's gonna be funny in the next few years will be watching Cash make teams overpay for our excess prospects.
Excellent point! Cash will make them overpay.
Only thing I dont like is Boston getting a pick if he goes there, do not think he resigns there.
Phillips is questioning Cashman right now, and he says the NY fans will be as well. Says the Yankees are doing little.
Ensberg to Padres
this is lame
This is fun.
only thing i have a problem with ur boy cash is...our number 1 weakness is bullpen, so he trades bullpen and gets none back..yea we know Joba and Edwar are coming back up but they both havent proved anything in the majors...i just hope it doesnt backfire
The deadline hasn't come yet.
just saying...
And I'm just remindin'.
Gammons said we are doing the right thing by not overpaying.
25 minutes.
fuk gammons
phil i think you should email cash and remind him 25 mins left
Cash is really patient. Don't let it bug you.
Yay Gagne to Red Sox
Wake Up Cashman
Olney says Gagne done.
Sox had to throw in Engle Beltre. That would be like us adding Jesus Montero. Pretty f'in crazy for a rental he may not even be a Type A.
down to 15 minutes.
serious question, if yankees dont make playoffs do you really think Cashman will be back next year
I do.
so do i but he shouldnt
Padres want Igawa
he got the farm rebuilt and reloaded. That seemed like it would take a hell of a lot longer two years ago. And he protected the future.
10 minutes, and remember sometimes trades don't come out for a few hours.
No one can criticize about the farm, hes made it so good thats its not even funny
can a team ask for an extension
Apparently Igawa was not available according to a SD paper.
dan, they have to have it on the commish's desk, but I'm sure they allow a little stuff like that to happen, just not officially.
Phillips really taking it to Cashman
Cashman has a job in baseball, Phillips doesn't.
Deadline Is OVer....YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Now we have to see if there are any late announcements like Wilson last year.
when was wilson announced
i mean what time last year
about an hour later. I wouldn't wait for anything, we just might get a surprise.
if this is only move we make i give us a D+
we just have to catch Cleveland. I give us an INC. cause I think we might still hear something, and the internal solution could be amazing.
I'm running out for awhile.
Kay says we were never close for Gagne. Horne was never involved in talks. Texas only wanted Hughes Kennedy or Joba.
Kay does not expect anything else.
Kay is wrong. Or he doesn't want people to get cranky about the good news regarding Horne.
You mean he is wrong about the offer? Not the fact that a deal may come out?
he's wrong about what the sticking point was.
Gotcha, does not seem like we made any other deal besides Betemit. I hope Farnsworth is benched permanently.
I don't haven't heard anything yet and I'm getting the feeling that what Joba and Ohlendorf have done out of the pen lately has changed some plans.
That is what Gammons said earlier the reason we did not make changes is b/c of Joba/Ohlendorf.
I am surprised though we could not move Farnsworth.
Pirates got Matt Morris, very interesting.
Jon Heyman is ripping Cashman as well.
Heyman is very adamant we should have stepped up for Gagne, says Boston is far and away better then we are. Not sure we catch the Indians, says if we make it past them we will be done in the 1st round.
I like Heyman buy he's not judge of horseflesh.
Agreed. He says he grew up a Yankee fan, and is disappointed in Cashman's lack of moves.
he doesn't appreciate the farm enough.
He did not seem to. He said he understands why they did not do anything but does not agree with it.
Cash said Texas was being too greedy. Will not trade a starter in next years rotation.
Torre says Betemit reports tomorrow plays 2nd 3rd and 1st.
Not looking to peddle Farnsworth he said. Make no mistake Farnsworth will be gone this off-season.
where did you hear this?
on 1050 ESPN Radio Andrew Marchand interviewed Cash and Joe.
Cash also said Joba wont be called up yet. He also said he will start innings only not come in the middle of them. Tomorrow Edwar or Karstens will be called up, and Hughes should be starting this weekend Cash said.
good stuff I wonder if it will be available for download later.
Not sure, They only played a minute or two of it, and then Kay who had heard the whole thing said some of the stuff that Marchand told him Cash and Joe told him.
Not sure if it's accurate but supposedly Schefter on NFL Network said Strahan has played his last game as a Giant and will be allowed to seek a trade.
who knows? Who cares?
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