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Wednesday, November 05, 2014

Yanks: Gil Patterson Effect?

Gil Patterson, the Yanks minor league pitching coordinator has been on the job for 2 years.   He took over from Nardi Contreras, who had been at it for a long time.  So far, it's been a little difficult to see what Gil's effect has been -- the Yanks haven't drafted a ton of prep pitching in the last two drafts and some of the IFA pitching from the last two periods isn't over yet.  Heck, we're still currently in only his second IFA period as coordinator.  So we haven't seen him take a Phil Hughes type of Ivan Nova type from induction to MLB success.


He doesn't seem to do interviews, and so the only thing we hear about him is how he annoys some of the minor league managers by calling them during games.

But do we have any clues to his effectiveness?  I'm wondering if he or his systems might have had something to do with Shane Greene's late blooming.   And I do wonder if he's either letting prospects keep their out pitches, or making sure they have them, because K's seem to be up at all levels.    And, of course, Nardi was famous for taking away everyone's sliders and making them learn curveballs.   So maybe K's will be the difference.  

We'll see if they make any changes under or around Gil this offseason.

12 Comments:

At 11:24 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

He can be incredibly effective but we won't really know until a bunch of the kids he has been working with get an extended opportunity with the NYY.

I hope he is emphasizing the change. It's the best secondary pitch there is, and it can help transform good stuff into effective stuff.

 
At 11:42 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Completely agree with you, both in terms of the changeup and the fact that his pitchers need to actually be given a chance to succeed. This "it take 8594589560 injuries to our staff before we'll let you take the mound" nonsense has to stop.

 
At 11:42 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

*it takes

 
At 12:07 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

We could really start to see his effect this year. It does take time for guys to both develop and build up their innings. He's only been here 2 seasons and this is his third offseason, but only second full IFA season.

DeCarr and Hensley give him two prototypical power starters to work on, especially now that Ty is finally healthy.

 
At 3:41 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

"Like" Button! Keeping my fingers crossed that he helps ManBan and Severino progress to the next level. Thanks for posting!

 
At 4:05 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

That's related to the point I made on the other thread.

There is a good chance that both Banuelos and Severino will be ML ready at some point during this upcoming season, right?

Then add in Greene and Mitchell.

Signing McCarthy, whatever the merits (for sake of argument) in isolation, his presence makes it less likely that some of those kids will get a chance, let alone an extended opportunity.

Case in point: Capuano got a chance last year ahead of Mitchell, and even at his best, he's a heaping bowl of nothingness.

The only way out of this mess is to give kids a chance to fail.

If they do it with Tanaka and Pineda pitching well, the kids will have cover.

If those two aren't pitching well, then what's the point of pretending to contend?

Development isn't free. It's time to accept a little short-term pain as a minor cost for some hope for the future.

They way to be the best team they can be (beyond this next few months) is if they don't further clog the roster with even more sizable contracts of replaceable starting pitchers.

 
At 6:27 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Banuelos and Severino will still be on innings limits.

 
At 9:22 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Love this interview with Refsnyder. Seems like a mature individual. Hope he gets a fair shot at 2B in spring training.

http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=36898989

 
At 11:40 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Just heard Francesa during lunch. He was speculating that if Refs beat out Prado in ST, Prado could be a utility man. At $10m, that seems absurd, but it's better than the block I expect, which was why I was against the trade (along with their poor payroll allocation). I wonder how much input (maybe total?) the shitty manager has over who starts.

What's the under/over on A-Rod lasting all three years he has left?

 
At 11:56 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Davidoff's predictions:

10. Chase Headley, David Robertson, Andrew Miller, Brandon McCarthy and Stephen Drew to the Yankees. These guys represent the Yankees’ approach this winter: Spread the wealth. Don’t get weighed down in a single contract.
They ultimately might not be willing to expend all the dollars they’d need to in order to make these predictions come true. But they have to know that there’s a decent chance one or more of their big-money guys — I’m thinking specifically of Alex Rodriguez, CC Sabathia and Masahiro Tanaka — winds up on the disabled list for a long period of time, thereby activating insurance policies.
And speaking of insurance in a different sense, given both the high upside and high downside surrounding their starting rotation, it makes sense to put together a dominant bullpen. How about Robertson and Miller teaming with Dellin Betances?
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No chance of winning, but it will enable them to pretend.

 
At 12:03 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

I think they'll also get Moncada and might hit a few more international targets.

 
At 12:39 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Again, I will believe it when I see it with a big Cuban.

Another thing that was a disappointment is Gardner's surgery. That it wasn't done in NY may suggest that the procedure is unusual and that few surgeons perform it (just speculation, but NY is usually the place for none Andrews operations).

Even if that isn't true, the surgery has to affect his trade value in the offseason, probably precluding a deal for now.

Not that they would necessarily move him anyway. That would take both guts and brains.

And they would probably move him for a pitcher anyway. (only partially joking)

 

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