Yikes. He just doesn't get it. The Yanks have been struggling on offense all season because he made bad choices last November, and now he's interested in blowing up the farm for pitching, that will not fix the offense. The team he has put together it a DOG. And he needs to fold, and call up the kids. This is not the year to try to pull of a big trade at the deadline. There's nothing out there that's worth what a Severino or Clarkin, Judge or Jagielo would bring to the Yanks. No one. Patience is what is required not more of the Hal Era pound foolishness. This is feeling sickly late `80s.
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Does no one in the NY media hold Cashman to task about the offense?
No, they don't seem to. They like to blame Mark Newman, but they don't seem to have a grasp on his responsibilities.
The worst GM in New York sports right now.
I guess you don't follow the Rangers
Right, dude. Tell me the trade that Cashman made that is analogous to the McDonagh deal (where Sather shed salary for a young and upcoming star), or the development successes he has had like Sather.
Its not even close.
So I get why you are anonymous.
Cash has a championship as GM.Sather has 0 for Rangers. Cash also has to many cooks in he kitchen, something Sather hasn't had to deal with.,
Sather has only been a good GM for the Rangers since Gorton and Clarke came aboard.
Interestingly, they've both had bad luck with prospects. all the Yankee injuries, the death of Cheraponov, that has negatively effected their respective tenures.
They've both made about two good trades, Cash's big one was for ARod, and Sather's was for McD.
They both punt away first round picks like they had an endless supply.
Cashman has no salary cap and still had the Core 5 (it's really the Core 5, but I digress) which he inherited to get that WS.
Who knows what Dolan has instructed Sather to do during his tenure?
I will say this: They have both been in their jobs way too long.
But I would take Sather over the guy who thinks pitching holds the keys to the kingdom, and somehow likes big hairy monsters. Although that might have been an instance of him confusing his public and private lives.
Edit: Core 4
Clarkin pitched a 1-2-3 first with 2K's in his first start back. He was rained out yesterday.
They both overpay for old player, btw, whether it's money or year or prospects or picks or all three.
Also, both, have been around long enough the small market teams have taken away much of their ability to use their advantages through multiple changes to the respective CBA's.
Clarkin only pitched two innings in his first start back but he K'd 3 and didn't give up a hit or walk.
Who is Cashman's Kreider, Staal, Zuccarellio, Hagelin, Stephan..,.
They don't exist. I don't love Sather, but he is better than the other guy.
As you have said previously, the A-Rod trade was facilitated by the MLBPA. That wasn't the case with dumping Gomez while receiving a MAX return.
Yeah, but McD isn't as good as ARod was at that time nor will he be.
Also, the Devils and Islanders weren't publicly trying to get McD. The Red Sox were trying to get ARod.
It's apples and oranges really. And Cash has been with the Yankees since `88. So he was there for the drafting, signing and development of the Fantastic Five, as well as guys like Ramiro Mendoza, Robbie Cano, Wang, Gardner, Joba, Hughes...
But again it's apples and oranges. Sather has only been as good as his Ranger FO assistants. Baseball development is a lot more complicated, and you can have great assessments and bad results or bad luck.
Sather has had two really bad things happen to his farm that weren't his responsibility. 1 was the death of Cherapanov, the other was the fixing of the Crosby lottery.
The Yanks over a similar period have had a number of big injuries, but no deaths, thank God, but also had that awful corruption scandal down in the DR.
And both the NHL and MLB have made it harder for both teams to get players.
Cashman definitely does suck. Its like everyone he signs turns to shit for the most part though. Its amazing how players lose 20 points in average per year when they become Yankees. Its been that way since we signed Giambi...
I'm no Cashman defender, but I will say, had Wang and Chamberlain not suffered career-altering injuries, both would likely still be mainstays in the Yankees' rotation. (That's not to defend the organization for mismanaging Wang's rehab, or Chamberlain's back-and-forth between starting and the pen, but those are different issues altogether.)
I'm not a Cashman fan anymore, and too much stuff has gone wrong.
I do like some of the people in the organization like Damon Oppenheimer, Pat McMahon, Danny Rowland, a bunch of scouts, Al Pedrique, Donny Borrell, PJ, and Mario Garza. And I think there are more, but they are all at A-ball and below.
So the bottom of the system is really rounding into shape. I think from AA up it's a fricking nightmare.
Btw, if we could, tomorrow I would fire Girardi and hire Brian Butterfield back from the Red Sox.
If Cashman deserves credit for what they drafted and developed when he wasn't in charge, then he deserves to be held accountable for their draft and development failures while he has been in charge.
A-Rod didn't go the the Sawx because of money. He tried to take less, but the MLBPA wouldn't let him.
I will give Cashman credit for not wanting to give him that crazy 10 year deal that GS sold the Steinbrenner boys on, but that alone does not make a career.
Joba was rushed. He didn't have sufficient minor league starts to be promoted and then they truncated his development as a starter by moving him to the pen.
As for Wang, he wasn't fully healthy either when he returned to the major leagues after his foot injury, and that predisposed him to hurt his shoulder.
It's all for naught though. As long as Hal can sip his Mimosas on his yacht, it's all good with him.
Lawyer, I actually think he was in charge of the draft before he was GM and before that awful period when they put Lin what's his ass in charge and train wrecked it.
Of course, he says he has never been a talent evaluator but he used to have Bill Livesay by his side and he is a legendary scout.
There was a good system in place back in the nineties. It fell apart when Steinbrenner started the alternate front office down in Tampa.
I know we already have Trey Hillman back as a major and minor league special assistant, but I'd like to see him either managing the Yanks or be head of player development for the system.
He and Butterfield were the hot young coaches who were developing everyone up and down the chain back in the nineties when guys like Bernie, Jeter and Po started showing up with the ability to hit and get on base.
I don't think Cashman is a dummy, but what I'm hearing from him now is not what I heard from him in the mid-2000s when he told George the organizational structure needed to be streamlined. I wonder what changed about him. Where is the stressing of on-base percentage that led to moves for the likes of Bobby Abreu and Nick Swisher? (Or the signing of Nick Johnson that ultimately didn't work out.)
I agree with Phil that much of the farm system's problems stem from ownership. I also agree that something is happening from AA on up that seems to be messing up prospects' development.
Ultimately, I think Cashman would be better suited having a fresh start somewhere else. But that isn't happening, so I can only hope the farm improves and he suddenly rediscovers the importance of OBP.
Then how did he lose his skills? Did he get lazy? Whatever it is, their ability to draft/develop/promote on to the ML roster (viewed an a single entity) since 2006 when he got the power he wanted (which wrested it away from the Tampa peeps) has been pretty bad in terms of actually integrating non-relievers on to the ML roster.
Even now, he is letting Roberts block Refsnyder. As you keep saying, where is Roller and Pirela? Instead we get more Solarte and Wheeler (nice stories, but probably little enduring upside).
And then there was the crown jewel, Montero. Maybe they knew he was a 'roider, but they spent him on the riskiest possible asset.
So maybe he actually brought value at one time, but he largely subtracts it now.
Ownership only limits their budget,which is goofy given the money they burn on washed up veterans, but it isn't necessary to have developmental success.
Lots of teams have minor league spending constraints. They are still much more successful in drafting and developing than the Yankees.
I think they're in the middle of a either two or three plans. And I think Hal is the biggest problem. I also think that 189 idea of his really slowed things down for a year or two, until last November when he decided not making the playoffs was a very bad thing.
Anyway, there are some things happening sub rosa like the return of Trey Hillman who is a Cash favorite from the old days, the IFA splurge, the incredible operation they've got going on in the DR and Tampa, the constant additions to their scouting staff, the hiring of a full time stat guy for the minors, the hiring of Quade and other "roving" guys, etc that seem totally at odds with everything going on at the MLB level with the exception of the Tanaka signing.
LINJ,
I don't disagree. The fact that the likes of Roller, Pirela and Refsnyder in particular haven't been brought up drives me crazy, as did Cashman sending down Jose Ramirez so Girardi could have another journeyman reliever on the roster. The way Cashman goes about constructing his roster's non-major pieces is ponderous, to borrow a phrase from Phil. I mean, does Girardi really need 13 pitchers, for example?
Agreed. If you're going to trade Montero, trade him for a bat, or for a proven commodity like King Felix.
I think Girardi is another part of the problem. I think he told them he would never play Montero at catcher and that he wanted to save DH for his older players.
I don't think the team has grinded enough under him, either, and that should be the biggest tenet in the Yankee Universe.
To be fair, the Mariners don't seem to view him as a first baseman either. I still wish the Yankees would acquire him for cheap and have him split time at first and DH next year just to see if returning to New York reinvigorates him.
*view him as a catcher
new article up about the system.
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