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Saturday, June 09, 2018

Draft Review Part Three: Arms Race?

The Yanks flipped out some of their fans by going with hitters before pitchers this past week, and then not drafting a prep pitcher till their late "here's to to you, kid" picks, that they have no intention of signing.  That's was surprising because lately they've been popping a big prep or two in the first 20 rounds like clockwork.  Last year they worked it that they took an injured collegiate RHP Clarke Schmidt to save slot space, then tapped prep RHP Matt Sauer in round 2 and spent most of what they had saved.  The year they took UCLA RHP James Kaprielian they followed that up with prep RHP Drew Findley.  In the year in between, they took prep RHP Nolan Martinez with a top three round pick.

So I think people were conditioned to expect and day one or two prep pitcher.  Heck, last year they popped RHP after RHP from round one through the end of the draft, almost excluding bats completely.  What we later learned was that last year's IFA class was low on premium arms but high on premium bats, and the Yanks grabbed their O there.

And I think that's a key to understanding what went on this week with all the catchers, some high OPS'ing other bats and some guys for SI, and fewer of the sort of big power arms they stocked up on last year, is that this year the really big arms are going to come from IFA. The Yanks are reportedly signing 2 or 3 Cuban imports on July 2, and we can expect that there's more than that.

Looking at the entirety of the pitching system, it might have been tought fitting in another high upside college arm.  You can't really start them in the GCL unless it's for rehab, and guys from High A up are having promotions delayed because there's a logjam between High A and AA.

So here's what it looks like the Yanks did: they took a a bunch of college relievers.  Many of whom are absolutely from the School of DRob.  Who were presumpitce relievers between 5'10" and 6'1". You can look through the earlier posts to see them all, I don't feel like going through the whole School of DRob again -- until they become Yankees and do DRob things.

In a draft that seemed to have a bunch of big pitchers, the Yanks only took 5 pitchers who were 6'5" or taller. Rodney Hutchison who is 6'5" 225,  Daniel Bies who is 6'8" and 245,  Tanner Myatt 6'7", Derek Craft 6'8" 220, and Charlie Ruegger 6'6" 218.

The Yanks also spent some of their pitching picks on rehabbing guys like Miami RHP Nick Ernst, who was hitting 97 before he got hurt and has already signed.  This might be a good bet for a sleeper. They also took Justin Wilson, a Vandy pitcher, who didn't pitch at all this year.  He's built more like a reliever, but you never know who the Yanks plan on making into a starter.

Anyway, the point about using Round 15 and  Round 23 to pick injured guys sort of shows what they though of whole class.  If they really liked Ernst and Wilson, they could have taken them in the top ten rounds and maybe gotten some useable savings like the did with Schmidt.  Instead they took them where they could gain no financial edge, and over presumably healthy guys.

So with the way guys like Chad Widmer pop up every year these days, my guess for the role with be Nick Ernst, and I guess if there's a conversion guy, I'd go with Tanner Myatt.

And I'll say if you feel this particular draft brought more impact bats than arms, wait for it.  What's it?  July 2nd.

33 Comments:

At 4:35 PM, Blogger Rich said...

We’re making what will likely be, based on history, a bad trade for a starting pitcher.

 
At 4:36 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Yup. German kieeps spitting the bit. then eventually calming down and pitching a bunch of scoreless innings. He's trading his friends.

 
At 4:40 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

This UMP is killing us.

 
At 4:41 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Rich after the top of the first I though of you lol. It’s now a guarantee, just a matter of who the particulars.

 
At 4:43 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Alexander Richards
Alexander Richards
@AlexRichardsNYY
#Yankees Trade Deadline Targets (in order from likeliest to unlikely)

1. Cole Hamels
2. Tyson Ross
3. Brad Hand
4 Kelvin Herrera
5. J.A. Happ
.

 
At 4:44 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

I thought of Rich and every trade fearing member of our community.

 
At 4:44 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Richards said the other day he wouldn’t be surprised if they get both Ross and Hamels. Also ruled out Degrom and Thor, as predicted, asking price was Andujar and Gleyber to start, big no thank,you.

 
At 4:45 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Tyler Austin's funk continues.

 
At 4:47 PM, Blogger Michael said...

How does Harkey leave the bullpen door open???? May have cost us a run

 
At 4:51 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Now magical German is back.

 
At 4:56 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

A Gleyber of Love!

 
At 5:18 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Now let’s get to work!

 
At 5:41 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

C'mon, Yanks!

 
At 5:46 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

HOME PLATE UMP SUCKS.

 
At 5:46 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Wasted opportunity

 
At 5:47 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Judge clearly has a different strike zone than everyone else...

 
At 5:54 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Too bad we don't have the kind of pitching coach who can fix German's weird inning issue.

 
At 5:58 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

ANDUJAR!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At 5:59 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Andujar!!!!!

 
At 6:05 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Agreed Phil, our coaches leave a lot to be desired.

 
At 6:07 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Domingo!

 
At 6:33 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Judge!!!!

 
At 6:47 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Betances!!

 
At 7:47 PM, Blogger Rich said...

German pitched well overall. It would be ridiculous to send him down or remove him from the rotation.

 
At 8:56 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

He needs to get into his better gear to start games, instead of giving up runs and then becoming magical.

 
At 3:40 AM, Blogger Rich said...


https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/06/east-notes-yankees-h-harvey-soroka-cespedes.html

It turns out top prospect Justus Sheffield might not be the next minor league pitcher in line to join the Yankees’ rotation, as Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports in his latest video that the club nearly promoted 23-year-old Jonathan Loaisiga for a spot start during a doubleheader, until rain altered their schedule. Rosenthal notes that Loaisiga had never pitched above Low-A ball until this season. It seems like he’s met little resistance this year, though, as he’s posted a 3.13 ERA this season while striking out 10.96 batters per nine against an equally impressive 1.17 walks per nine. Of course, plenty could change by the next time the Yankees need another starter. It’s certainly worth noting that promoting Sheffield last Monday might have improved his chances of making the Super Two cut, had he impressed enough to stick in the rotation from there on out. There will certainly be some entertaining suspense surrounding this situation from here forward.

 
At 6:54 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Reading the progression of this thread was fun.

With MadBum unlikely to be dealt and the Mets being too stubborn to trade DeGrom to the Yankees, the fact of the matter is there is unlikely to be a starter worthwhile to acquire at the deadline for the team's better prospects. With that in mind, they should do what they can to shore up the bullpen (which almost has to be a yearly occurrence anyway given the unreliability of most relievers on a year-to-year basis) and keep the blue-chip prospects to help your club going forward.

 
At 7:42 AM, Blogger Rich said...

Over the years, however, Cashman reportedly wanted Dempster, Samardzija, Quintana. We are lucky he couldn’t close a deal for any of them.

Cashman is very good at some things but he is very bad at others, and trading for top starters is something he has sucked at.

 
At 7:45 AM, Blogger Rich said...

And he has protected his trade targets maybe more than his homegrown successes. But now is a great time to sell high on Didi and Hicks if he has the independence of thought to do if.

 
At 11:06 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

It's difficult to get a sense of reported interest and how accurate the reports are, versus "maybe he would acquire this pitcher if the price wasn't too steep." What we do know is his most recent starter acquisition via trade was Sonny Gray for mostly broken parts and a shortstop prospect whom they sold high on. I think it's pretty clear now Gray's main issue is that Yankee Stadium has gotten into his head (7.22 home ERA, 2.83 road ERA). The solution is to either develop your own starters and/or trade for guys who you feel have the right makeup for pitching in New York City.

Madison Bumgarner and Jacob DeGrom are two guys I feel can do it on the Yankees; Bumgarner because he's a proven postseason workhorse and DeGrom because he's already done it with the Mets. The problem is the Giants have as good a chance as any to win the weak NL West and the Mets are too prideful to ever make a blockbuster deal with the Yankees. So they're stuck with the "develop your own pitching" option and waiting to see what's available in the offseason.

 
At 11:36 AM, Blogger Rich said...

Cashman publicly admitted interest those three. I had no interest at any price.

The cost for the two in your second paragraph would be so high that I would rather lose, unless the cost was Didi, Hicks, Drury and Gray. All are flawed, most have reached their ceiling, and none are great.

But those four are the only “valuable” assets I would trade.

If Cashman really thinks that highly of them they they are off limits it’s very troubling.

 
At 12:17 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

New post.

 
At 7:26 PM, Blogger Russel Henderson said...

Very curious to read what DO has to say. A number of the guys who came out of last year's draft who emerged this year - Junk, Lehnen, Whitlock - were identified in last year's interview as guys they really liked.

 

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