Holy crap. The Yanks have sent down Rob Refsnyder, and picked up a career minor leaguer to play second. Even though the price of the trade is just "future considerations" if there had been past considerations, Willie Randolph would have been in camp all season teaching Refs how to turn 2. In my life as a Yankee fan Willie and Cano are the best I've seen, and Cano isn't available, because no foresight was used years ago. I really don't know how many more ways the universe has to telll the Yanks to play Refsnyder, but they sure seem blind to the signs. We'll see, this year, just how much they can win with very limited offense. Glad the minors start next week, because the MLB team is going to be a drag.
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#Yankees like Refsnyder’s bat, but is it enough to play corner OF or can he learn to play 2b at least adequately. Was bad at 2b in spring
Joel Sherman said it best.
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Yeah, he's a fucking genius. And the tweets of morons are solid proof...
It's the Yanks' own fault that Refs needs more development. They brought Scott Rolen in to work with Jags... They couldn't get Willie to come in and work with Refs? It's their own stupidity.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
This team has nothing on it worth watching other than it's starting pitchers when they aren't going to the disabled list.
Wake me up when they aren't signing shortstops who had awful seasons the year before to play out of position instead of letting kids learn on the job.
You don't learn in the big leagues.
That is what the minor leagues are for.
I am rooting for this kid to do well when he is READY.
George Brett and Wade Boggs both became much better fielders in the majors. Big league development happens all the time, that's why very few peak seasons happen at ages 22 or 23.
Were they at least average when they came up to the majors?
He has only been playing 2B for a few years now after being converted from OF.
Why didn't he play in the AZL or Dominican Winter League to get more reps at 2B?
Neither was even average when he came to the bigs. And the Twins and Indians converted Greg Nettles from OF to 3B while he was in the bigs.
it's the Yanks fault if he wasnt playing Winter Ball.
I think he'll be up the same day as Kris Bryant.
I don't see how this isn't completely on the GM>
Perhaps Yanks can deal Gardner since he has some value and doesn't have a NTC and slide Refsnyder into LF.
You make partial sense for once.
They should trade Gardner, as long as it's not for a pitcher or yet another older player.
Aborting Refs at 2B is really dumb at this point.
Someone on Twitter made a good point -- would Refsnyder have been ready had they called him up last year for a team that wasn't going anywhere?
Obviously, he's still overcoming his learning curve on defense, but they always seem to find to live with veteran failure (Roberts (sucked defensively too), Beltran, McCann for long stretches, not to mention AJ Burnett and Vazquez a few years ago), but can't stomach it with kids unless they absolutely, positively have no choice.
I can't believe that Hal and Levine want to see Brian Roberts over a kid. It makes no sense.
So it's on Girardi and/or Cashman, and Cashman has shown he was willing to force things on Torre (to his credit).
There are some Cashman defenders here who think Girardi sucks.
Who do you think empowers the Hoover-ing?
There is no need for cheap shots on this board as we all have an opinion!
I may begin to respect your opinion when you stop posting anonymously, and it wasn't a cheap shot, it was my opinion.
I don't care to have your respect.
Just show some class
Based on your opinions I feel good
Unless Ref's plays the corners I think it would be best if he polishes up in SWB.
I would agree if they were actually a strong enough team have a reasonable hope of winning now( they are in and they don't
That would be fine if A.) The team was a legitimate World Series contender and B.) They had an actual second baseman playing the position.
Here's my one optimistic note of the season: Big Mike
http://nypost.com/2015/04/02/the-one-liability-keeping-yanks-stud-prospect-from-majors/
I also saw a couple of quotes from Girardi to the effect that Refs has been improving defensively during the spring and that he has been working very hard at it. So I haven't abandoned hope by a long shot. He isn't Rich McKinney and the Yanks know that.
He'll probably be up in June. Or May, like Cano was.
Agreed. Just as long as his defense has improved.
Why Ref's didn't play winter ball is strange to me??
If Didi hits according to his ML career norm, he is much more of a liability in the context of this poor offense than the current version of Refs.
Defense is much less important than offense.
Limited range is something you can live with IMO, But not being to turn two is not.
We lived with not being able to turn to with Sax, Duncan, Knobby at times and Sori. We won a ton with the latter 3.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one. That's a lot of pressure to put on a rookie
Not having him will put a lot of pressure on the rest of the offense.
I would like to see Slade up at some point too if he has truly found it. Enough rhetoric; it is long past time for an extended youth movement.
Slade can do it if he can stay off the DL. One thinks of Pete Rieser and hopes for a better ending.
I saw the below in another message board.
http://nypost.com/2015/04/02/36-predictions-for-a-parity-filled-2015-mlb-season/
Don’t be surprised if … (Yankees Edition)
With Carlos Beltran lost for the season, the Yankees outbid the Orioles by trading Ian Clarkin, Gary Sanchez and Tyler Wade to Cincinnati for Jay Bruce.
Huh.
Nah. They only make dumb trades for pitching
I hope that's just another George King -- Joel Sherman pipe dream. Keep Clarkin, Sev, Hensley, and de Carr at least thru AAA and hope that at least two of them stay healthy and can contribute at the ML level.
Murphy over Romine. Props.
So Drew ended ST on a solid note with his 3rd HR of the spring to go with 9 RBI..
Most importantly...Just 1 E4.
Great offense...for a SS.
Tanaka's comments about diminished velo all year are a concern, and makes my comments about whether surgery should be an option if he is a diminished pitcher even more relevant.
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