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Saturday, December 20, 2014

The Prado Trade: Something Different

It was pretty surprising that the Yanks traded Martin Prado yesterday.  Not that it looks like a bad trade or anything, but after re-signing Headley, it seemed Prado would just move to 2B.   For example, last season, the Yanks opted to keep Gardner after signing Ellsbury.  What Gardy might have brought back is unknown, but moving Prado who has positional versatility - like Gardy, was the opposite of not moving Gardy.  Thus, it was something different.  It's also clear that they believed more in Headley than they did in Prado.

The big question is whether they will really let Refnsyder play 2B, or if they will try to find some sort of defensive stopgap to man the position until Rob's defense is where they want it.

The two pitchers they got are intriguing, especially if they recognize what has been holding Eovaldi back.   The Yankees have a history of doing that, and it goes back a lot farther than McCarthy last year.

In 1930 the Yanks traded an OF named Cedric Durst to Boston along with 50K and a loan of 50K from Rupert to the Boston owner, and got back an unsuccessful pitcher named Red Ruffing - whom they had been trying to acquire for YEARS.   Here's why - and it was 80 years before anyone was even using the term analytics in baseball - Miller Huggins had noticed that Red was mostly an arm thrower who would tire out.   He knew if he could get him, he or his coaches, could teach him how to use his body.

Huggins died in `29 and Bob Shawkey, the former Yankee pitcher took over.  Shawkey new the same thing and talked the Colonel into getting Ruffing.  The rest is Yankee History as Red went on to become a Hall of Famer in Pinstripes.

13 Comments:

At 1:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think they will sign Asdrubal Cabrera to play 2B

 
At 1:45 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Doubt it.

 
At 1:58 PM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

Why? Just let the kids play and see if you have anything.

 
At 2:19 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

I think if the 1B coach turns out to be Willie Randolph or another ex-2B it will be Refs or Pirela at second with massive tutoring going on behind the scenes.

 
At 2:26 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Anon better not be Cashman or Levine.

I would still trade Gardner if they could package him for a younger power bat.

 
At 2:41 PM, Anonymous yankyfan said...

Willie would make sense.

 
At 2:50 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Remember when they brought back Nettles to teach ARod third? Or when they had Bowa tutor the young Cano?

 
At 9:25 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Madden, whatever one thinks of him, talks about Cashman's "unwavering support from Hal Steinbrenner."

How is that freakin' possible?

Up is down, down is up with Hal, I guess.

 
At 6:49 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

This is an interesting trade. I do hope this means they are committed to Refsnyder playing this year. In terms of Eovaldi vs. Phelps, at this point the results are similar, but you might as well gamble on the higher ceiling guys. Jones can have his uses and then you have another wild card in the prospect they got. Personally I like Prado at 3rd better than I like Headley, but I guess you hope Headley still can bounce back to form and roll with some youth at 2B.

 
At 8:40 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

I was struck by Minn's early extension with Hughes, and as Feinsand tweeted, Hughes actually had a much better ERA on the road, which I wasn't aware of.

So while I like this trade, I wish I had more confidence in their ability to develop young pitchers, or young anything reall.

 
At 11:06 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Pirates won the bidding for Kang.

 
At 2:52 PM, Anonymous MBN said...

Pirates???

That surprises me. Guess they're using some of the money shared from the Yankees over the years.

 
At 2:35 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

I'm hopeful too and like the idea of an upside play. On the other hand, there are plenty of times when they hoped to turn an erratic young pitcher with good stuff around and it just didn't work -- for example Mike Kekich.

 

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