Yanks Lose Again
posted by Kalel9 @ 1:41 PM
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Sunday, August 10, 2014
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23 Comments:
Mitchell looked real good -- explosive late movement on his fastball and was down in the zone, something Rothschild has been preaching since ST.
Mitchell is a positive and all the trades except the Prado one were good, but because of his contract they should try to dump him now.
Since Gil Patterson took over the pitching program, it's been all about sinkers and staying down in the zone. They're letting the slider kids keep their sliders, and I think even their splitters.
Might as well just let him start. What do they have to lose at this point?
Pineda, Greene, Mitchell are the only potential starters under contract for next year. That should mean something.
Do we throw big money at Lester or Scherzer?
Tanaka is under contract.
And I assume we're getting Lester since he comes with no draft pick compensation.
yankyfan, who posts here sometimes was at the Scranton game today and he said there were scouts there, at least one of whom was there from KC.
I cannot see a trade with a WC competitor.
Scherzer throws across his body.
Only one of the scouts was from KC.
Lester is pretty much a given due to the draft pick compensation no longer being attached to him.
I've no faith CC will ever be anything more than a fifth starter going forward.
With $170m already committed, of which CC and Tanaka are question marks, no SS, and a declining McCann, Tex, Beltran, and A-Rod, about $120m of the $170m is either poorly spent or on ice waiting for a resolution, and there are possible holes at 3B and RF since they cannot count on their present placeholders to both hit and field enough to be true positional options, I am not sure that $25m for Lester is a given , nor that it makes sense.
Should they really keep digging a deeper and deeper payroll hole, or FINALLY make the necessary sacrifice to have the flexibility to maximize their potential?
So I would go Pineda, Greene, Mitchell, Phelps, and then the best of Nova/CC. Obviously, if Tanaka is Tanaka, Phelps and whomever goes to the pen.
Otherwise, with Lester, and say Tanaka, CC and Pineda, some of the above young guys and Severino could be blocked.
LINJ,
Lester is a name that says to the casual fan "we're serious about winning."
And he'll cost nothing but money. We both know it's a given the Yankees sign him unless someone throws 7 to 8 years at him. (And even that might not be enough to stop the Yankees, if recent history is any indication.)
I don't agree that McCann and Beltran are declining to the point where they are sunk costs like A-Rod.
McCann has to adjust to a multitude of different factors, first and foremost is learning a new pitching staff. Then take into account switching leagues and seeing pitchers he's never had to face before.
I wasn't a huge fan of the deal but I see someone who will manage our pitching staff and be a mentor to breaking in the likes or Murphy & Sanchez before switching to 1B/DH.
I was expecting a .260/330/460 with above avg defense and unfortunately, his hitting has been below that. It's still early in the contract, so being pessimistic is not doing anyone anything.
As for Beltran, I'll take his 3yr deal over Choo's 7yr deal. Since coming back from injury july 2, he's been hitting over .300.
Having roster flexibility is great but we aren't paying their contracts, what do you care if the payroll is over 170mil?
Lester is someone they should go after, but please, not for 7 or 8 years. 6 years -- $150-160 million.
Do it Cash.
Unless he is dead set on returning to Boston, which is not beyond the realm of possibilities.
If Lester is a no go because of price, years, or both, I am not against bringing back McCarthy, but only on a 2 year deal, maybe with an option. His injury history is not pretty.
I wouldn't do more than five years and a team option on Lester. As LINJ has said before, pitching is far more fragile, especially over 30, and a much worse long-term investment than hitting.
Why do some people think that Cashman deserves credit or blame for signing Lester. When the payroll is this high and misspent, it's all Hal, good or bad.
"I don't agree that McCann and Beltran are declining to the point where they are sunk costs like A-Rod."
Here's what you have to ask yourself:
Would the Yankees offer either the same contract right now?
There is no way.
But let's say they sign Lester. The offense still sucks. The sole hope of it getting better will be turning back the clock, which is kind of risky, and maybe they won't block Refs, but he's not a likely to be a difference maker out of the gate.
The only hope there is guys in the farm system coming up and producing. Even if they trade for a bat, they'd gut half the farm in doing so, and one wouldn't be anywhere near enough.
True, Mike, and what is a concern is how few open spots there are likely to be, at least as the roster/payroll looks now because of these commitments to veterans.
One thing they could do is trade prospects in areas of surplus for a ML ready SS who can hit as well as field, but I have no idea who that would be, or what it would cost. They could also commit to Refs at 2B, and not let Prado block him or some other marginal player block him.
Manny to AAA, who would be another rason not to sign Lester, Pineda to start Wedd. Mitchell should replace Capuano. Stop the bs.
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