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Tuesday, September 30, 2014

Yanks Farm Review: Things That Went Right Pt. 3

College hitters really started to hit.   Aaron Judge had a fantastic year, and so did Rob Refsnyder and Kyle Roller.   This is sort of a complete sea change for the organization, and represents much better work by the scouts.  See, the problem with college hitters, other than that they're older and need to advance more quickly, is that they spend so much time with aluminum bats, it's hard to project their permanent adjustment to wood -- even if they've had a good summer in a wood bat league.  A summer league like that just isn't going to be a big enough sample size to make any conclusive decisions.    So the Yankee scouts have somehow gotten better at figuring out which guys were really going to be able to hit with wood, and that's a big deal.

The other problem with collegiate bats was that the Yanks never had a shot at the top guys, and spent a lot of years just trying to fill out the SI roster.   That changed a few years ago, and we're really starting to see the results now.  The advent of the college bat in the system was delayed a bit by the injuries to David Adams and a few others, but it looks like it's here to stay, as guys like Mark Payton hit the ground hitting this year after they were drafted.

So, College Bats were a big improvement and no longer need to be thought of as low ceiling organizational players.

12 Comments:

At 5:57 AM, Anonymous MBN said...

And at least one of those college bats (RefSnyder) should make the team in 2015.

 
At 9:06 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

I think the only way Refs makes the team is if A-Rod can't play 3B. And even then, if they re-sign Headley he could also be blocked.

 
At 10:00 AM, Anonymous MBN said...

Lawyer;

I could be way off base here, but IMO, if they sign Headley, it will be for multiple years, and it will require some commitment from the Yankees that he is the everyday 3rd baseman. Otherwise, why would he want to come here?

That means that A-Rod is the everyday DH, or the Yankees are going to get rid of him somehow.

Again, Just IMO.

 
At 10:20 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

You could be right. They are in such a precarious situation, not knowing if A-Rod or Tex are going to be healthy or productive, and he could offer protection at two positions. He might not go for that, but I would think that the market for him has to be down because he hasn't hit well. So think it's possible.

 
At 6:01 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

How the risable fool is back spouting his championship caliber club for next year bullshit.

 
At 6:02 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

How = Hal aka The dumber brother

 
At 7:20 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Actually this may explain why he me eps Cashman ias the GM. How many people are willing to just swallow the crap over and over and have no integrity.

 
At 8:15 AM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

I think it's good news that Hal mentioned Refs (along with Severino and Lindgren) by name in his interview with Kay. That suggests that Refs has at least a chance to make the team out of spring training. If they don't think his defense is ready, they might keep him at AAA for a few months to keep getting the work in, which would be better fro him than riding the bench in the ML.

 
At 9:16 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

It is kind of strange though that they are so much more forgiving of a veteran's flaws then those of a kid.

The problem is how are they ever going to develop kids if they keep on this win a championship every year nonsense. The two are almost mutually exclusive.

 
At 12:36 PM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

What I don't know is whether Refs is a bit unpolished or a hopeless klutz at second or somewhere in between (and if so where). That makes a huge difference and I'd love to get Kale's informed perspective on that.

I agree that it's very hard in this day and age to try to win every year and keep a young team. They did it in the '50's by cycling through pitchers (except Ford) and middle infielders and having Mantle and Berra in the middle, but pitchers are alot more expensive nowadays -- especially when they want long term contracts.

Keep your fingers crossed.

 
At 1:11 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

The pitchers are coming up through the system.

The Yanks formula for winning has always been OBP plus Homers, plus above average DP's on defense.

I haven't seen Refs play D much, but more important than range from a Yankee perspective would be his ability to start a DP or take the toss and make the throw. It was something I learned easily when I hurt my pitching shoulder.

I don't see why a professional athlete would have a problem, but Soriano was notably bad at it. They said Refs was getting better. We'll see. We need his bat.

 
At 1:32 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

That is the reason that I think Cashman et al have failed and would be fired years ago by any owner who cared more about winning than making money.

From mid-2000s through 2010, they had enough top talent (before Jeter, A-Rod, Tex, Posada declined) to offset (compensate for) the development of at least one position player a season on to the ML roster (or even one every other season). Instead, only one such player was integrated on to the team, Gardner, who if you followed his mL career, was a pretty unlikely projection.

In fact, that is the process that Cashman promised when he received more power in 2006.

The proposed strategy of that GM has been replaced by a GM who overvalues pitching and who thinks big hairy monsters are a sufficient substitute for young dynamic offensive players, who have been a staple of every successful Yankee team in their storied, but now sullied, history.

So they are now left with a horrendous offense that can't likely provide cover for a kid who needs time to surmount his learning curve, and they have so many potential holes that they really would have to rebuild to get on the right path to enduring and bona fide contention.

But they don't want to face that unpleasant reality, so they keep signing band-aids like Beltran McCann, the latter blocking the position at which they have the most potential high-end young players.

So that is what Hal should be apologizing for, if anything, not whatever strawman he invents to fool the fans.

I think Prado's contract makes him likely to start at 2B, and I think Murphy, like Refs, is blocked as well, so I could see them packaged with a pitcher for a SS.

 

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