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Friday, September 26, 2014

Yankees Farm Review: Things That Went Right Pt. 2

People like to complain about the Yankees drafting relievers.  But the truth is, one of the best ways for them to keep payroll down so they can fill needs, is by becoming completely self-reliant when it comes relievers.   In other words, no more money spent on other people's FA's, just a pure pipeline of prospects, and the Yanks have the horses to do that now.

Guys like Lindgren, who was the Yanks first pick in the 2014 draft and is a potential lefty relief ace, and Nick Rumbelow the big righty from LSU made huge strides toward the major league pen this year.  And there are still more guys on the way, as well as guys like Jose Ramirez who was converted to relief and could stabilize as suddenly as Betances did.

The games will keep getting shorter, and because most of these guys can throw two innings, even if Girardi stays manager for a few more years, they won't have to carry 12 or thirteen pitchers, which Joe would do if he was allowed.

14 Comments:

At 11:00 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

I don't mind them drafting relievers. I do mind that they have had to/chosen to convert so many top starting pitching prospects into relievers (or in two notable instances moving them back and forth) because they couldn't develop them.

 
At 11:09 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Part of that was because of the war of attrition they had themselves in against the Sox earlier in this century. Sox got Gagne, so we converted Joba, etc. The Hughes thing was completely the injury to his leg during his early no hitter, that made him start pitching up.

It was insane to see him go from a grounder/K guy in the minors to a flyball/K guy in the majors.

 
At 11:57 AM, Anonymous yankyfan said...

Pinder is another guy who you can add to the list. He was impressive when I saw him a few times this year but I fear he may be lost in the rule 5 draft.

 
At 12:06 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

But they moved to move Joba back the next season and then back out again.

Hughes was also moved back and forth.

To me, it is about expediency and not finishing off development, and in particular, not emphasizing a changeup in the system.

I posted a note from Bill Madden recently that Cashman basically let Newman do what wanted without any accountability.

You have posted stuff to the effect that there is no consistent approach to plate discipline in the system.

Taken together, along with so many other shortfalls, the most logical conclusion is a failure in oversight by the GM>

 
At 12:19 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Edit: "But they continued to move..."

 
At 12:49 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Bill Madden is an egoic nitwit.

Plate disc is one of the most emphasized elements on the farm from the organizational standpoint, but the minor league managers and hitting coaches are dropping the ball.

 
At 1:02 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Got an update from instructs.

Severino and Banuelos are rocking as well as relievers Lindgren, Rumbelow and Webb.

Jags, Bird, and Judge are impressing.

The new Latin Class looks very good.

 
At 2:53 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

whether or not that's true that doesn't make him wrong, and by the way so it's Cashman.

 
At 2:54 PM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

And it's the GM's job to make sure that the people he delegates authority to get things right and obviously he doesn't.

 
At 3:52 PM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

They have a major league team and 10 minor league teams, plus EST, the Tampa compound, and the Dominican compound.

One man, and I don't care who it is, and have yet to see named an adequate candidate can manage all of that without delegating stuff.

Now the money maker for all ten teams is the MLB club. The farther down the chain you get the less value to the bottom line.

Thus, the major leagues will always pull more on the GM, then the farm. Further, the way teams handle their top down plans starts next week for the Yankees, when they have organizational meetings.

There, they will either hire or retain the people in charge, with some being replaced immediately and others perhaps being signed as things move along.

Then they will restate their expectations and values.

The Yanks, over the past 10 years have emphasized OPS and OBP. They give every prospect a walks target for the year.

Presumably the minor league team staffs are supposed to be riding herd on those targets. Yet they don't seem to be.

So, some of them will get replaced and some of them have been already.

They try to draft kids with the walk gene, they are definitely instilling it down in the DSL, it's just up and down in the NA system, and they or whoever replaces them will have to keep looking at it.

 
At 6:15 PM, Anonymous yankyfan said...

Andrew Friedman is pretty close to that guy..

 
At 6:43 AM, Blogger Mike in Mississippi said...

I've not been impressed with Tampa as of late. Not as strong a system now that they aren't getting top five picks every year, and let's be honest, they got fleeced on the Price trade.

 
At 7:47 AM, Anonymous yankyfan said...

MK thats true but the post PED era is going he way of pitching ,speed and D .Andrew seems to do as well as anyone in those fields with whats available.

 
At 7:10 AM, Anonymous Stottlemyre68 said...

These posts are great, and I particularly appreciate the way you're tying in overall strategy, planning, and management with results.

I'm looking forward to the next installments and hope at some point you can share your perspective on what you expect to see next year. For example, is the plan for Severino to start at Trenton and then jump to SWB or to start at SWB and possibly make the big leagues?

I'm not in any way trying to hurry you. Your stuff is worth waiting for. Cheers! S68

 

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