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Tuesday, July 29, 2014
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Yeah, unless we are getting Trout back, I could get irrational.
Likewise.
Worth seeing what we can get for JR Murphy? Given McAnn is locked up forver, Cervelli has been more than competetent and you have Sanchez behind them, could some team value Murphy as a starting catcher and thus could he bring us back value and a position of greater need? I'm still thinking about guys that are more than one year rentals. We could obviously use a starter in RF.
I'd rather trade Cervelli than Murphy. Btw, Romine has bounced back this year and will be a big league back up at least.
Sanchez and Torrens should be untouchable with Murphy being pretty much so.
And McCann sucks.
Can you get an every day position player who is under 26 with comparable upside?if so, that might make sense.
Nobody trades the Yankees young guys, because they know the Yanks will always overpay for old guys.
True.
McAnn sucks but he's locked up. Is Murphy basically blocked? Murphy could bring you back more than Cervelli and Cervelli is generally fine as a backup. I don't know where you guys are projecting Murphy's upside, but if you built a package with Murphy and a mid-level guy, you could maybe land Viciedo and Danks from CWS. I don't love danks but he gets innings, and Viciedo has had a rough year but he's 25 and has power.
Eh, the reality is I don't love it, but I think we've made some mistakes in not dealing from depth and we're too shallow in a bunch of places. You could maybe fix a good deal of organizational depth issues by making moves with Robertson and Murphy. We keep adding young talent to the system at catcher and now we have a glut.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/a-bright-future-for-the-yankees-backup-backstop-1401414653
Over the span of 40 years in professional baseball—including 30 training some of the best-known catchers ever to put on the gear—Gary Tuck has seen his share of great backstops.
Yet what the renowned catching instructor sees with John Ryan Murphy makes him pause. Players like Murphy only come along every once in a long while. When they do, Tuck takes note.
"He's different, he's special," Tuck said. "He's as good as anybody I've ever had—and that's 40 years of some of the greatest catchers who have ever been behind the plate."
Danks stinks. He is 29 and hasn't had an ERA+ over 90 in three years.
Viciedo is 25 and has an 88 OPS+.
So you don't trade a unique catcher for stuff. You hold out for something really good or you keep him.
McCann may have already begun a decline.
Why compound a mistake with another mistake?
This team doesn't need any more band-aids. It needs a fundamental commitment to young players with upside.
I know what Gary Tuck said but the point is the same- where and when will he play? And is he better than what's behind him?
Forget about the trade I proposed- honestly as I said I don't love that- but if there's a way to get some valuable longer term pieces for Murphy I think you really have to look at that. He's one of the few valuable pieces we have that we can afford to move, and whatever return we do get for him could really help us out more than he can at this point (not because he isn't a good player, but because he won't play very much).
They can break him in the same way they broke in Posada. Give him 1/3 of the games next year, 40-45% the year after, and McCann, if he hits, can play 1B since Tex is becoming Mr. Brittle.
If not, then he is a sunk cost, and they will already have his replacement.
If Murphy lives up to his projections, then his value will only increase.
The catching position then becomes the strength that stockpiling catchers was supposed to produce, but never has.
Again, if they are overwhelmed by an offer for Murphy, move him, but if Phil is right, then that is unlikely.
Doesn't this game show what a mess this team is? Even against one of he worst teams in MLB, they struggle mightily to win ugly.
They have a DH in the AL. Let McCann do that and split the catching with Murphy. When Sanchez is ready, you make McCann full time DH or split it with the other two catchers. When Torrens is ready we can trade Murphy or Sanchez for a ton.
I believe that Cervelli is a Free Agent after the season, or he has 1 more at the most. He is leaving to get a full-time gig somewhere.
So trading Murphy with Sanchez not ready and maybe never ready, and Romine probably nothing more than a backup, is a big mistake. And this is besides what Gary Tuck says.
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