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Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Giants Draft Pt.1: Overview

Okay, so this is Giants Draft Pt.1, which is not to be confused with the Giants Offseason posts which are now up to 11.    These parts will focus entirely on the Giant draft, while Offseason will focus on current team issues, hirings and future signings.  Got it?  Good.

I never try to organize the draft by need, because that creates reaches, and sacrifices both draft value and future value.   Drafting for need is just plain dumb.    I like to draft by WANT.   Meaning, I like to look at the Giants and see what can give them the biggest improvements then use the Draft as a shopping tool.

For example, I want better OL's.   They only have two I like at all and 1 can tolerate.  So I want them to hit the OL in FA and the draft.   Now, here comes the first part of the distinction between drafting for need and drafting for want: everyone knows and even says that OL is a big need for the Giants.

And that's true.  But I don't want to go reaching for them.  I've only seen 2 kind of OL's ever succeed for the Giants, and I'm really not interested in experimenting with that formula.  So, I want to find some OL's with good feet, strong hands and consistency.  Arm length is not as big a deal as I used to think it was.   Seubert, Snee, Pugh and the Cowboys Zach Martin, are the proof.   But I want rough, tough guys like that, or big, naturally powerful, suprisingly athletic guys like Shawn Andrews.

So unless they fit those parameters, I am not taking them just to take them.

Similarly, though the Giants have big presumtive needs at LB and S, I'm not going to go reaching around for them.  We need football players, not athletes, at both positions. So I won't buy the combine helium from any of them unless there is game tape to back it up.

I do want the Giants to add another running back and and another WR, though these are not their on the list of their top needs.   With a fixed OL, the  chance for making big plays goes up.  So, we need to replace David Wilson at RB, and we need to add another big play receiver, to take some heat off of OBJ and Cruz, create more chaos for secondaries, and in case Cruz isn't Cruz anymore.  

And I always like to take a CB.   So, we'll see what happens.

I do want the Giants to hit their immediate needs, like a run stopping DT and a good LG in FA.  By doing this they can really hit their wants and become that much more dominant.

7 Comments:

At 10:18 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

All things being equal, I agree, but given Eli's situation, need has to be weighted higher than it otherwise would be if they hadn't waited so long and/or whiffed in preventing the complete OL decline that has tanked this franchise.

 
At 10:19 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Need is for free agency and you can't boost OL's who can't pull and trap just to feel like you've done something.

 
At 10:25 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

In terms of recent FA signings at the position, even when you excuse the injuries, Schwartz is merely a little above average, at best, and Baas was horrible, and a large part of the reason for the decline when his massive contract is included.

At 9, there should be someone who reasonably fits what they want.

If they had a mobile QB, or a younger QB, I would be fine with hewing purely to BPA.

They have a coach who is nearly 70.

Mara has declared an OL emergency.

IMO, they can say otherwise, they are going to overweight OL this offseason in the need/BPA equation.

 
At 10:46 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

Their big mistake was not taking Max Unger instead of Clint Sintim. O'Hara was going to be the first to go, and Koets whom they were successfully tunring into a C was already hurt.

Building an OL takes years, too. We Seubert in 2000, Diehl in 2003, O'Hara as a FA in 2004,Snee with a high pick in 2004, and Kareem as a big contract free agen in 2005.

Right now we are in year 5 of rebuilding this line and it will get finished.

Btw, Baas happened because they whiffed on Unger.

 
At 10:59 AM, Blogger Lawyer in NJ said...

Yes, they missed on Unger, but there always has to be a viable fallback plan and they apparently haven't had one.

5 years in today's NFL is unacceptable.

People were mentioning various OL candidates at that other board for years when there was still time to avoid the meltdown we have seen. Obviously, the Giants believed otherwise.

Let's be honest. We're lucky that Eli is still intact.

 
At 11:05 AM, Blogger Kalel9 said...

We are lucky Eli is intact. And I've been interested in a bunch of OL's over the years -- but you only have so many windows and have to go BPA. The real mistake they made was back in 2009, and that's largely why things have gone wrong since.

I think when the line was productive with Shawn Andrews in 2010, they felt they had added life to it. But they were wrong there, too.

They should complete the rebuild this Spring. And they'll be able to do it with the kind of guys they like.

 
At 6:22 PM, Anonymous yankyfan said...

Trade down and get Peat. I guess its too early yet but Kiper has him at i think 25.

 

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