4 for 1
Don't know the dollars yet, but for Randy Johnson the Yanks have picked up pitchers Vizcaino, Ohlendorf, Steven Jackson and shortstop Alberto Gonzales. Would have liked Micah Owings, but I'll see what else is up with these other two prospects. We're obviously about to trade a reliever, too.
UPDATE: We're apparently paying nothing.
posted by Kalel9 @ 12:50 PM
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all of these guys are danerously close to no longer being prospects... both pitchers are pushing 25 and SS is 23
very unimpressed with this haul... and then on top of that, doug mz is our new 1Bman
There better not be any dough in this deal. On the other hand, let's not forget we have an exec we got from the DBacks who is inimately familiar with their system.
i think too much is being made of that dback exec who we hired... if he really had the inside track on things, i think we would have gotten better, younger prospects back.
i'm thinking that byrnes gave cashman a list of prospects who he was willing to part with and cashman perhaps asked the scout which players were the best from that crop. in essence, AZ went about this trade somehow as if they had all the leverage, which i don't understand.
That's missing the point. Maybe these are better prospects than some scouting services have declared. I like Ohlendorf a lot, and Jackson seems like the kind of power arm Nardi and co have been having success with. Gonzales seems like a UT.
Yanks pay nothing.
I don't understand why Cash didn't use his best asset, cash, to extract more.
heyman is reporting that the yankees are sending $4 mil.. makes this deal even worse, imo
If true, he's Cash-poor, not Cashmoney.
i think even if the yankees were paying nothing, he'd still be cash-poor in my book
it's actually $2 mil... still money, though
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/01/04/johnson.trade/index.html
I don't think Heyman is right. I have checked this.
Either way, I'm unimpressed with Cashman.
To me, this is his worst trade in quite some time.
And it was made on the same day he signed Doug M....z.
You don't have to remind me. Though I don't think he'll let 1.5M block better options.
probably his worst trade since he acquired RJ to begin with... oh the irony
The original RJ trade happened over his head.
steinbrenner mandated that they go out and get RJ, but i think cashman was responsible for determining the outgoing package, no?
Now Verducci just said 2M. That's not what I heard from a Yankee employee earlier.
Flymick, no, the President of the Yanks and the new Dback owners tossed that deal around. Cashman would have gotten it done for less.
i guess cashman is really doing his best to purge the roster of all tampa-related incarnations.
as for the $2 mil news... could have gotten lost in translation... so much focus is being paid to the players being exchanged that no one bothers to ask if the yankees are actually paying anything
$2 mil + this package + doug mz = nightcap
the 2M might only be 1.8M rounded up. I think the person I talk with might not consider that money.
You know what was the sickest commentary I heard all day? Francesa's almost sexual obsession with getting Bernie back on the roster no matter what.
Yup, it really, really disturbing. That's why I rarely have them on.
I'm feeling much better about the two minor league pitchers.
I don't think they're bad prospects, I just think that when you have the assets the Yankees do, you spend a little more to get the best prospects possible. The opportunity costs of doing otherwise are can be high.
Originally we were apparently gonna throw in another player and 8M to get Medders and Connor Jackson. That came apart for various reasons. I think Ohlendorf and Jackson have a chance to be a bit better than Owings and Nippert. Especially Nippert. And I hope we take six mill we didn't throw into this deal and go buy more international FA's!
Yeah, but why spend any money on Doug M...z? Why spend $26 + $20 million on Igawa? If a few million dollars matters to a corporation, then at least be consistent.
Holy cow, OT, but this story is so sad.
That's horrific. And clearly negligent of the adult on duty.
Per the Yanks. Let's take a look at Igawa and see what he is. Japanese MLE's are BS, and I don't think we spent the 26M capriciously. I also believe the Yanks know exactly what they can extract out of the many businesses anchored in the region of Japan.
Richard Tarr is very high on the three prospects we got.
His posts can often be brilliant or considerably less so. It's really quite an amazing duality.
Madden
I think Jackson might be the surprise of the deal. He made a lot of progress once he lengthened his stride. I'm not as disappointed as I was earlier.
I'm heartened that Ohlendorf went to Princeton. Given the lower level of competition, it helps explain his age/level of development.
Some of these prospects are going to be traded. We'll have a better read on Cash's skills when those deals are made.
Tarr drew up a trade where we send Atlanta some pitching and no Melky, and end up with Gonzalez from the Pirates. That would rock.
ohlendorf no longer throws in the 90s by his own admission:
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2004/10/14/sports/11084.shtml
granted, the article is 2 years old, but still, it's a bit unsettling hearing a pitcher ackowledge his own drop in velocity
He threw in the nineties this year. Maybe he had a dead arm last year, but he topped out mid-nineties.
I read something today that stated that his velocity goes up over the course of the season.
I saw that, too. He's a horse. I love that kind of pitcher.
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